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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 21:55:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR
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We have still  the  last  working  OP2   qso  mode , which  can  send   =
' I have two cats' =20
But  the  decode   s/n is   -20 dB , ROS-MF-2   is  round  -26 dB  -28dB =
  about the  same
as  wspr-2  , but a  full  free  running  data  mode=20

At  speeds  less  than  1  baud  , would  any one  use  such a  mode , =
there  was  a  ROS  0.1 Baud=20
7/8  db lower  , but  very  very  slow  !  ..=20

In the  start , was the  problem  of  translating   audio  to  rf  on =
136/500  , but  now  that=20
seems  to  be  much  less  of a  problem=20

73-G,=20


From: Alex R7NT=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:40 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR


Dear LF enthusiasts!
my opinion is not very original in English - in Russian I would write =
A4+++ :-)

"CQ R7NT K"
QRSS20  -  28' 40'"  simple TX, visual decode, subjective report, random =
time, QSO mode....
DFCW20  - 11' 4"      little more complicated TX, visual decode, =
subjective report, random time, QSO mode....

"any call ++"
Qp32  - 32'    simple TX, software based decode/report, random time, no =
QSO mode....
WSPR-15 - 15'  little more complicated TX, software based decode/report, =
00', 15', 30', 45' times to start, no QSO mode........

QRSS20 ~~=3DDFCW20 ~~=3DOP32 ~~=3DWSPR-15

Comparing OP32 and WSPR-15 (OP8/WSPR-2) is equally as comparing QRSS20 =
and DFCW20 (QRSS3/ DFCW3)
I personally like DFCW, JT9-5..10 more.... but I have the little choise =
now....=20
...maybe WOLF agn?

73! Alex R7NT  136.73.ru

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<DIV>We have still&nbsp; the&nbsp; last&nbsp; working&nbsp; =
OP2&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
qso&nbsp; mode , which&nbsp; can&nbsp; send&nbsp;&nbsp; ' I have two =
cats'&nbsp;=20
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<DIV>But&nbsp; the&nbsp; decode&nbsp;&nbsp; s/n is&nbsp;&nbsp; -20 dB ,=20
ROS-MF-2&nbsp;&nbsp; is&nbsp; round&nbsp; -26 dB&nbsp; -28dB&nbsp;&nbsp; =
about=20
the&nbsp; same</DIV>
<DIV>as&nbsp; wspr-2&nbsp; , but a&nbsp; full&nbsp; free&nbsp; =
running&nbsp;=20
data&nbsp; mode </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>At&nbsp; speeds&nbsp; less&nbsp; than&nbsp; 1&nbsp; baud&nbsp; ,=20
would&nbsp; any one&nbsp; use&nbsp; such a&nbsp; mode , there&nbsp; =
was&nbsp;=20
a&nbsp; ROS&nbsp; 0.1 Baud </DIV>
<DIV>7/8&nbsp; db lower&nbsp; , but&nbsp; very&nbsp; very&nbsp; =
slow&nbsp;=20
!&nbsp; .. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In the&nbsp; start , was the&nbsp; problem&nbsp; of&nbsp;=20
translating&nbsp;&nbsp; audio&nbsp; to&nbsp; rf&nbsp; on 136/500&nbsp; , =

but&nbsp; now&nbsp; that </DIV>
<DIV>seems&nbsp; to&nbsp; be&nbsp; much&nbsp; less&nbsp; of a&nbsp; =
problem=20
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<DIV>73-G, </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dr7nt@bk.ru=20
href=3D"mailto:r7nt@bk.ru">Alex R7NT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 27, 2013 9:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear LF enthusiasts!<BR>my opinion is not very original =
in=20
English - in Russian I would write A4+++ :-)<BR><BR>"CQ R7NT =
K"<BR>QRSS20=20
&nbsp;- &nbsp;28' 40'" &nbsp;simple TX, visual decode, subjective =
report, random=20
time, QSO mode....<BR>DFCW20 &nbsp;- 11' 4" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;little =
more=20
complicated TX,&nbsp;visual decode,&nbsp;subjective report,&nbsp;random =
time,=20
QSO mode....<BR><BR>"any call ++"<BR>Qp32 &nbsp;- 32' &nbsp; =
&nbsp;simple TX,=20
software based decode/report,&nbsp;random time, no&nbsp;QSO =
mode....<BR>WSPR-15=20
- 15' &nbsp;little more complicated TX,&nbsp;software =
based&nbsp;decode/report,=20
00', 15', 30', 45' times to start,&nbsp;no&nbsp;QSO =
mode........<BR><BR>QRSS20=20
~~=3DDFCW20 ~~=3DOP32 ~~=3DWSPR-15<BR><BR>Comparing OP32 =
and&nbsp;WSPR-15=20
(OP8/WSPR-2)&nbsp;is equally as comparing&nbsp;QRSS20 and DFCW20 (QRSS3/ =

DFCW3)<BR>I personally like DFCW, JT9-5..10 more.... but I have the =
little=20
choise now.... <BR>...maybe WOLF agn?<BR><BR>73! Alex R7NT =
&nbsp;136.73.ru<BR>
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