Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v63LhJGU002462 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 23:44:11 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dRLD3-0006bh-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2017 17:25:25 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dRLD3-0006bV-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2017 17:25:25 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dRLD0-0003rA-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2017 17:25:24 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.208.143.49]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsTge-1dtl3B21vc-0123iW for ; Sat, 01 Jul 2017 18:25:21 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <1478421187.20170701142226@gmail.com> <3D981576F1544C5CAA9F9D2AABB45304@Clemens0811> In-Reply-To: <3D981576F1544C5CAA9F9D2AABB45304@Clemens0811> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:25:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Thread-Index: AdLybTwMtpAdsm73SPy7bUjAaeOXpAAFaNHgAADhGMA= X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:syUdLp8La6oQV5fi+chpdMNaR+jBujaXBPCp2/JTow57I7pJoum vg3vlojszUkDUxVPucRxhinIY2ThU7R37j2ZdxoARciW/ymeSQLj8eK/TOTeDsUfR1P02Si ffAGxjhrEnfxLDRuUnPAYLm1aD/I+i5trNTypO7dX/qnhVpA8HKq5HFJaeb6Yvv9C5z+GF1 C+KlmHC1L0V/lemIZkGfA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:HsKXdHKlu9c=:jtS3l3ZmyxKsRP6x61xDkd GeP8CjpolLc6szD7pkllRKOPSpQ/+ryGymZ5A8qLUAMig733z4A3PjvoprrKRrjGtLOsMMcoB APVDX6/OpeZ4TphkCHBQAfMn85sWj66Re/BuKokaWQCJLfm+CPt6svDmviokh4HSvGFOun0aI 5hysjfekU9JDyYgG8OysyVHBcGYaFlEQ1q02wROy8zd0AobNjItUhkz7OLo6s2XtbpQJaurRk COelFcJoVcztke+tCD4Y1eoejBAzftlEYPMFZNWkzTSHAwkx9lGADUokZ5/UmrWw+XKyUlslZ If/99+n1CwWrNOPebE7ovqSS6AkjLYMQXRVaEHOLjEkBKSSTPALBzIbR2q/T0aL7/pqylEOpY nqY/4k/mTZ3tv1QPC1GPmz19KMab1yC/FZP2vS3rz7Ff2y4H8eNZhmhsCPQCQJZuls/7UFQ/u jzmzke8EpsaQKBAE8q2ZhZxI8UYcrZjeIJjfv2vgvgy2cGT7rXRt/lUWoSQaNZrA2i4Tb/U7X fcxzccu5MUQPK9zV/QEYEMAkm7qnFjjhFcAAd8+cuigH0IirLQF7XrrC0rXVcdN5/FsTo4aSg 8QyLkpGjr9bRC8pYvD7pd+wIjlqfh1ON6qMyDIV+NPNi+EQl40tRLVA7I2piJxWbHzrvCiQjT wmTtjnnSFTjMHMtVIAg/cgH6ZZzdv6Zu4H6vUOyVyb3Gv7Z2UczZVAW/sfMwPIhhjVoJ1KE35 kvjnwswtwDglKxpxxUBLfaSGRozz70YnyaHoAfQH4pS5iNDd05mXvJ4OM/sGWwMABlnZnaFZf +1V0eAW X-Scan-Signature: d7907c3bf895ca41e0bedc3fa074f0d4 Subject: LF: RE: RE: Scopematch question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v63LhJGU002462 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12161 Forgot to mention that with with electrically small antennas R nearly stays constant around resonance. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Clemens Paul >Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 6:18 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: RE: Scopematch question > >Hi Chris, > >At a given power into a load voltage increases at the sqrt of >increasing R because U = sqrt(P*R). >When a complex load comes into play V increases with |Z| which >is sqrt (R^2 +X^2) >So at resonance,i.e. w/o any reactance |Z|( now =R) has the >lowest possible value because X=0 . >Your antenna-feeder tuner system has a very high loaded Q >(causing the very small bandwidth). >Hence X (inductive or capacitive) increases very rapidly off >resonance and therefore voltage too. > >73 >Clemens >DL4RAJ > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >>Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 3:22 PM >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: Scopematch question >> >>Hello rsgb, >> >> >>My scopematch setup appears to work as intended and into a good >>quality dummy load of 50 Ohms impedance the volts and amps traces sit >>perfectly upon one another. If my antenna is even SLIGHTLY off >>resonance the volts trace level increase substantially. Is this >>because the off resonance antenna is getting less current, but more >>volts into it? I am not 100% sure of the correlation between volts >>shown and resonance, if someone could briefly explain I'd appreciate >>it, thanks. 2E0ILY >> >>-- >>Best regards, >> Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com >> >> >> >>--- >>Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >>http://www.avg.com >> > >