Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v6OEkMhh019658 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:46:23 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dZeXO-00038b-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dZeXM-00038S-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:44 +0100 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dZeXJ-0006Ua-0T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:43 +0100 Received: from ASUS ([82.21.241.77]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id oege1v00S1gtunm01egeRe; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:38 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=ntlworld.com Result=Signature OK X-Originating-IP: [82.21.241.77] X-Authenticated-User: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=SeoKDalu c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+we89o/nwg41pYryx2JXJA==:117 a=+we89o/nwg41pYryx2JXJA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=PMsEXtOdAAAA:8 a=r2j5mwqeXIu_FQcDQ9sA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=atDDCgOo5JYA:10 a=slCku8JSH3TyizEDQ3pD:22 a=8Cvn_8kMc7qRBB2nBroG:22 Message-ID: From: To: References: <1091782271.20170724143346@gmail.com> <5975FA1E.8090400@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5975FA1E.8090400@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ntlworld.com; s=meg.feb2017; t=1500907238; bh=n/yi/um9KB9rOaeZx06Mle/vAyhHAyK4zocvUW72bRw=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=jbqtZs85uBM2R6kkl5JQwBaiuw7+sKG/Vid/zRV7m/lLjHBdWrXRZLjdhw/eVBFB2 HuhZ2ajD27+bFOwkLfYtj4WDEYf+JfEsFHqxgCH495FrNh9ydLchobOSAV9uq9xapG iGbngnIWnzrcglUFZaOHdffV1/bVW1BmUirmHcbnzXRH6rZ/R5cOUhPYHfpVcK93l9 Qjmu/wQtMmgERz2KZGm3dca89PW7xp8XzBtx+/zgvE3yxXigkkuKBkMh15uO0jGosZ YzsetC2GMcQhksMe45EISA7U4g5nf/47Ic8NpiZ9vAaeFdZjRXAmfqO3ddQ9FaAbTm C1KGvuMyANtgA== X-Scan-Signature: d7907c3bf895ca41e0bedc3fa074f0d4 Subject: LF: Re: Antenna change over relay question Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12280 Hi Chris/Stefan Loosely connected to your question, I wanted to switch my Inv L between LF/MF Variometer/loading coils and HF Auto remote tuner remotely, i.e 120' away from the shack. Every relay I tried had insulation break down and contact arc over. Only running 360 W at MF and 300 at LF. My solution was to fabricate a 3 position Knife type switch operated via a Servo motor to switch the antennae and a standard 20 Amp Rated relay for the RF inputs to the Tuner and Variometers. No more insulation break down or arc over. The contacts are mounted on Old Eddystone porcelain insulators. I would be interested to know how the relay holds up with 1 kW at 136 kHz. 73 Ian G4GIR -----Original Message----- From: DK7FC Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Antenna change over relay question Hi Chris, Use an optocoupler such as CNY 17-4 or 4N28 with 470R in series to the input. The output can be used to switch a IRF540 for example. 73, Stefan Am 24.07.2017 15:33, schrieb Chris Wilson: > Hello LF'ers, > > > I have a QRP Labs U3S that is the exciter for a 1kW LF amp. I want the > common antenna to switch to feeding my Kenwood TS-590 for RX. The U3S > has a pin with selectable delay that goes to 5V high on TX. I need the > low current capable output to switch a 24V high power relay, but fail > safe with the antenna connected to the amp on any loss of 24V. I can > derive the 24V from a boost converted from the 12V that supplies the > U3S exciter. What's the best way of making an interface that fails > safe please? The relay is a Russian one detailed here, that draws > about 200mA held on: > > http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 > > If I use one relay to switch an antenna between a TX and RX (e.g., > output of 1 kW amplifier to NO connection and TS-590 to NC connection > of the same relay, with COM port to antenna), then de-energized I'd > always be in RX mode and energized I'd be in TX mode and there's no > way the TX would ever be connected to the RX no matter what failed. > But how can I easily ground the antenna input of the TS-590 during TX > (or maybe it's safe not to?) Do I need another relay or can I do it > with another semiconductor? Thanks > > > >