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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Markus >I'm really amazed that you were able to capture every possible transmission from here between midnight and 4 UT. It wasn't me ... it was the power of EbNaut! You have made a good showing on my QRSS grabber over the years ... as well as OPDS32 ... so not too surprised at EbNaut results. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 822c049e197981e4c3616576c3c24e11 Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01D3CA97.07C3C7E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01D3CA97.07C3C7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus >I'm really amazed that you were able to capture every possible = transmission from here between midnight and 4 UT. It wasn't me ... it was the power of EbNaut! You have made a good = showing on my QRSS grabber over the years ... as well as OPDS32 ... so = not too surprised at EbNaut results. I'll be watching again tonight if either you or Riccardo will be = transmitting. Maybe Riccardo will try the 3 character message for 3 dB = gain as Stefan pointed out.=20 The TX antenna here has been down for a couple years. Replaced one of = the towers here two years ago and the other tower last year so there's = been a lot of tower / antenna work going on.=20 Thanks for the EbNaut signal over the past few days. Will be looking = whenever you or other stations are active. Would be nice if more EU = stations were set up to transmit EbNaut. From what I hear the TX side is = easier than the RX side. Jay W1VD ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 2:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2 Many thanks again to Jay, I'm really amazed that you were able to = capture every possible transmission from here between midnight and 4 UT. = BTW I don't think that Ric's ERP is any weaker than mine. Maybe the = extra distance across the mountains does make a difference - we've got = to flatten the Alps ;-) Domenico's auto-decoder works like a charm - it didn't miss a single = transmission from Ric or myself, including a couple of daylight tests. Joe DF2JP was also sending his message every hour, albeit with = slightly changed format (5ch 3s 8K19A, but CRC 16 instead of 20). As far = as I could see, his frequency wandered gradually from 137523.963 Hz at 0 = UT to 137524.009 Hz at 6 UT. He left the unmodulated carrier on during = each other half hour, so you may be able to find his trace in a = spectrogram, or perhaps a peak in the red "show_rawsyms" spectrum. Joe = mentioned that he will be able to fix GPS-lock soon. Also had another look on Rob's frequency but again nothing found. Jay I wonder if you are also preparing to send EbNaut yourself? For = the time being, our current ad-hoc arrangement would probably work both = ways: Europeans start transmitting on the full hour within a few Hz of = 137522, and Americans send near 137490 during second half-hours.=20 Best 73,=20 Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: jrusgrove An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mo, 2. Apr 2018 13:31 Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2 Markus, Riccardo & EbNaut enthusiasts DF6NM 5 decodes, sadly no decode of IW4DXW ;~( . Riccardo, any chance = for more transmitter power? DF6NM: 0000 Rank 0 EbN0 6.4 decoded 0100 Rank 0 EbN0 7.8 decoded 0200 Rank 0 EbN0 5.3 decoded 0300 Rank 0 EbN0 9.3 decoded 0400 Rank 2561 EbN0 -1.7 decoded Decoder attachments below. Jay W1VD Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2 =20 Von: Domenico IZ7SLZ =20 An: rsgb_lf_group =20 Datum: Mo, 2. Apr 2018 11:35=20 Hello Markus, LF, Transmissions from you and from Riccardo have been decoded here. Congratulations for the good going. http://www.qsl.net/iz7slz/ I'm still trying to extract the 21.00UT message from DF2JP but NIL = till now. BTW his carrier was strong here in JN80 so it is only matter to guess = the right frequency and time offsets. Compliments also to Joe for his EbNaut tests. If necessary, i can = change settings of my auto-decoder if Joe wants make further = transmissions. It is a bank holiday today here and the neighbor garage - jamming my = LF reception during the day - is closed. So very low noise now: good for = testing EbNaut with ground waves. 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Markus
 
>I'm really amazed that you were = able to capture=20 every possible transmission from here between midnight and 4 = UT.
 
It wasn't me ... it was the power of = EbNaut! You=20 have made a good showing on my QRSS grabber over the years ... as well = as OPDS32=20 ... so not too surprised at EbNaut results.
 
I'll be watching again tonight if = either you or=20 Riccardo will be transmitting. Maybe Riccardo will try the 3 = character=20 message for 3 dB gain as Stefan pointed out. 
 
The TX antenna here has been down for a = couple=20 years. Replaced one of the towers here two years ago and the other tower = last=20 year so there's been a lot of tower / antenna work going on. =
 
Thanks for the EbNaut signal over the = past few=20 days. Will be looking whenever you or other stations are active. Would = be nice=20 if more EU stations were set up to transmit EbNaut. From what I hear the = TX side=20 is easier than the RX side.
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 = 2:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 = / 2

Many=20 thanks again to Jay, I'm really amazed that you were able to capture = every=20 possible transmission from here between midnight and 4 UT.
BTW=20 I don't think that Ric's ERP is any weaker than mine. Maybe the extra = distance=20 across the mountains does make a difference - we've got to flatten the = Alps=20 ;-)
Domenico's=20 auto-decoder works like a charm - it didn't miss a single transmission = from=20 Ric or myself, including a couple of daylight tests.
Joe=20 DF2JP was also sending his message every hour, albeit with slightly = changed=20 format (5ch 3s 8K19A, but CRC 16 instead of 20). As far as I could = see, his=20 frequency wandered gradually from 137523.963 Hz at 0 UT to 137524.009 = Hz at 6=20 UT. He left the unmodulated carrier on during each other half hour, so = you may=20 be able to find his trace in a spectrogram, or perhaps a peak in the = red=20 "show_rawsyms" spectrum. Joe mentioned that he will be able to fix = GPS-lock=20 soon.
Also=20 had another look on Rob's frequency but again nothing found.
Jay=20 I wonder if you are also preparing to send EbNaut yourself? For the = time=20 being, our current ad-hoc arrangement would probably work both ways: = Europeans=20 start transmitting on the full hour within a few Hz of 137522, and = Americans=20 send near 137490 during second half-hours.
Best=20 73,
Markus



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- =
Von:=20 jrusgrove <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Mo, 2. Apr 2018=20 13:31
Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2

Markus, Riccardo & EbNaut enthusiasts
 
DF6NM 5 decodes, sadly no decode of IW4DXW ;~( . Riccardo, any = chance for=20 more transmitter power?
 
DF6NM:
 
0000 Rank 0 EbN0 6.4 decoded
0100 Rank 0 EbN0 7.8 decoded
0200 Rank 0 EbN0 5.3 decoded
0300 Rank 0 EbN0 9.3 decoded
0400 Rank 2561 EbN0 -1.7 decoded
 
Decoder attachments below.
 
Jay W1VD

Re: LF: EbNaut April 1 / 2 
Von: Domenico IZ7SLZ=20 <iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Mo, 2. Apr 2018 11:35=20
Hello Markus, LF,

Transmissions from you and from Riccardo have been decoded = here.

Congratulations for the good = going.
http://www.qsl.net/iz7slz/

I'm still trying to extract the 21.00UT message from DF2JP but NIL = till=20 now.

BTW his carrier was strong here in JN80 so it is only matter to = guess the=20 right frequency and time offsets.

Compliments also to Joe for his EbNaut tests. If necessary, i can = change=20 settings of my auto-decoder if Joe wants make further = transmissions.

It is a bank holiday today here and the neighbor garage - jamming = my LF=20 reception during the day - is closed. So very low noise now: good for = testing=20 EbNaut with ground waves.

All the best

Domenico, iz7slz

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