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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Laura, Roger, but then, why not transmit on 8.9 kHz? Or 30 kHz, or any other unused frequency? The ERP we can achieve on (V)LF will anyhow be so weak that no one will notice it, unless he's really looking for it. 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Or 30 kHz, or any other unused = frequency? The ERP we can achieve on (V)LF will anyhow be so weak that = no one will notice it, unless he's really looking for it. 73, Markus ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations =DDes, I agree with Laura. The former, Dave, is not achievable in the = real world.=20 As long as no undue interference (an OFCOM phrase, well used) to = official services is caused, everyone is happy. In reality it is easy to = suppress signals above 8.3kHz down a very long way.=20 73s Roger G3XBM On 28 January 2014 21:18, LZ wrote: Dave, You wrote: > ... In other words NO signal must escape that is higher than that = 8.3 kHz limit -That is it!! -end of!! Dave=20 No, wrong. Right: "In other words NO *interfering* signal must escape that is = higher than that 8.3 kHz limit..." 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Laura, Roger,
 
but then, why not transmit on 8.9 kHz? = Or 30 kHz,=20 or any other unused frequency? The ERP we can achieve on (V)LF will = anyhow=20 be so weak that no one will notice it, unless he's really looking for=20 it.
 
73, Markus
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Roger=20 Lapthorn
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency=20 allocations

=DDes, I agree with Laura. The former, Dave, is not achievable in = the real=20 world.

As long as no undue interference (an OFCOM phrase, well=20 used)  to official services is caused, everyone is happy. In = reality it is=20 easy to suppress signals above 8.3kHz down a very long way.=20

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 28 January 2014 21:18, LZ <Laura.Zepam@gmx.de>=20 wrote:
Dave,

You wrote:
> ... In other words = NO signal=20 must escape that is higher than that 8.3 kHz limit -That is = it!!=20 -end of!! Dave 

No, wrong.
Right: "In other words = NO=20 *interfering* signal must escape that is higher than that 8.3 kHz=20 limit..."

Laura

Gesandt von mein=20 PettiFogPhone




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