Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC072-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPg-0007sd-Nx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPf-0007sU-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7uPd-0004VE-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 43319 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2tY5sH17lsJ+YQzdQxN6xx9coJ7PyVNakBTaVB5j+ZkmrpbxJeyJoKi+LMMwY3bzudREDkt1MN2D+jFJQfsDwj3QUDziIEDEr0VggDWsOooxgqTRJZC2xUONlD4UcNXbQqO25V0ANFGgJzl3YL+zo6SMcKKgxKMziRMinAWEH0o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.157.175.252 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: eQI.4LsVM1ka4EteswPWVWXR9TGStBzaCh9lbkTgbQssa6mP6ZIDAheZOLJVLMysMK.ic1B_J2pkVVRvofCheuvvcelHBi6pFKgfVClORM.iiXe.oR2YDwyrjKqDKVbBUQDwtxiVR9bzCCD03DRUCznLpCQRUHj0YpBIYsE_ru6YDdPGuaO1hcrSDH30Cbzzkb8RVTCaREz5sZnSD1nxh4TuibF9vKJEwRRNWC2xtM3SB27yVoU4ShNNioM2azqeI5onrRLCXXj97A0VzP4p4ZSPdlhcDycaMK4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency= . My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QS= Os, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in= general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is= nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My= point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, th= en follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement= about reserving a section for each mode. Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have= alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
 
I was speaking figuratively as you ar= e so near=20 and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed= at Chris'=20 statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others= who have=20 complained about beacons in general.   In fact the band is= often dead=20 for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, esp= ecially=20 when testing.  My point is that  is there should be room=20 for both beacons and QSOs,  then follows a suggest= ion that=20 LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a se= ction for=20 each mode.
 
Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

I did= not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it, rather=20 than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work out a co= mpromise where=20 we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency= for me to=20 work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on=20 this.

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl=20 frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be= for people=20 using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.= 2 kHz=20 -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

From:= = Chris Osborn=20

To: LF Group= =20

Sent: Sunday,=20 November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject= : LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF
<= BR>It was a red-letter day today=20 as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-= band=20 contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UE= P was my=20 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.
QSO=20 break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34= RTTY =20 and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My perso= nal 600m=20 (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MO= ST=20 FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is ob= vious that=20 one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account=20 for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked station= s=20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &nbs= p;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &nb= sp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51&nb= sp; =20 M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

= CROSS-BAND=20 AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who= listen to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
= ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally= find it=20 sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was nev= er=20 achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mo= de which I=20 call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WS= PR=20 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operatin= g 24/7 in=20 the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it ma= y be time=20 for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ






 

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