Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dl07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dl07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.74.213]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-b52b4d0a7b90105; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:50:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1AA243800011B; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PTKlb-0000Wg-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:35 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PTKlb-0000WU-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:35 +0000 Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PTKlZ-0007ny-7l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:34 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.213] by nm20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Dec 2010 20:49:27 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.73] by tm6.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Dec 2010 20:49:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Dec 2010 20:49:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 358007.52233.bm@omp1034.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56027 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2010 20:49:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=LZRlsSKct7GU5uJrk8NE4XTgEIWgTpoJqBZClVdIWMclpd6Qrje6tqLthKkV1DFm+dCQDQvhHe1cXzyszFLCTDnr47Insi1wEqYmqAQ/FgO3LovEDD3VrmSm07WMnVl0e9Kto7AGGziR2gMkVJB1sjE54xgHHuG92c0WN3e96lY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1292532567; bh=qMRYc95o0Vil4UefHOki6RrMEHs4+tyu0tkrLfXSh4k=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=DD5483P41q2AsWXM/BJW8RqZBHTfju0887zkTXqwu2FWR9pXtr3t7UZ+orNYBm84PigEppnaa/5v71fo3/HGM76iGP1EBsjGRP4bMlwdphrkLSjWN5yMQCwgdyX9ZoY/gnuoewquN6xyttdvPfdQWsWL/+5c+WfEAjzv0iw9jAQ= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.184.110.249 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2010 20:49:24 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: srps6u4VM1mogu3.K79DDjmdKwxuHndycm04KgY4Tn7wbDP owdI8fiXxyIj_vDjHOrkSaV8Fz6Lp0wpFQcLMe4XbreW1xA8vGjkPYUfHxWM MWjxU0F7FKObQ18bgkDYo.IH_X0JoLrGdWLv9bLC0TmGBqvpliCpNJVI6G_r TPLAWS.7zcs8xbsNgRprBA1.kUz1hSDEU.2wpLLDdCqRAPVX4pMvyIBNIxC2 W4feM3RFKMySo2Fg96zaFe1JXzaIQuujDqB0VQGVHSchi80CozuBc.UWf2r4 suP7Ir2wT5RlZd20VXjBkKZq906j98rmf.VZQPuGLgfqpSkQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Sound Card mic Impedance Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad54d0a7b8d29ac X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Andy, LF Group, Unfortunately, this doesn't quite work... If you think about it, at very low frequencies, any low-pass filter will just be a "straight through" connection, so in your example will just give whatever voltage the 50ohm source delivers to a 500ohm load with no filter present. The filter synthesis algorithm then makes a circuit that extends a more-or less flat response at this level up to somewhere near the cut-off frequency. You could, however, design a "peaked low-pass" circuit that would give voltage gain over a relatively narrow frequency range just below the cut-off frequency, falling to unity at DC - a pi matching network does this, for example. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: Sound Card mic Impedance > If its a passive L/C filter, why not do a version with unequal Zin and > Zout > and take advantage of the voltage gain in going from 50ohms to, say, 500 > ohms? That will give you an apparant 10dB without trying. >