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Mal,
no problem, the info is indeed a bit limited about the Hz/V for the ad=
justment.
The data sheet seems to suggest that the control voltage is capable of=
 modulating the oscillator, which implies a fast slew rate. This is no=
t particularly good if you intend to just use the oscillator as a fixe=
d frequency source. It means you must filter the control voltage bette=
r.=20
Of course using the source at low frequencies, none of the issues of=
 this type of source will manifest themselves significantly, but it is=
 probable that the performance of a microwave local oscillator locked=
 to one of these may be a bit noisy.
To better understand the unit's characteristics, measure the frequency=
 at extremes of the control voltage range. That is about all the infor=
mation that is missing.
most oscillators of this type have a fairly limited tuning range, so=
 you may find pulling the unit to your desired frequency on 500KHz is=
 not possible.   To reach 505 KHz the oscillator must pull to 10.1MHz,=
 which is a large excursion for oscillators of this type 10 Hz in 10=
 MHz is 1ppm. 100KHz in 10 MHz  is 10,000 PPM=20

Regards
mark
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal hamilton=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:35 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mc Coy


  Mark
  Osc fired up and working fb. I was looking for more detailed info ab=
out ctl voltages ie V versus Freq. This unit is marked 10Mhz when supp=
lied with 5V ctl voltage, and this is spot on with 6v TTL output.
  73 de mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Mark=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:37 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: Mc Coy


    30 sec search on the internet
    http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf-datasheets/Datasheets-110/DSAP=
004237.pdf
    Mark
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: mal hamilton=20
      To: rsgb=20
      Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:42 PM
      Subject: LF: Mc Coy


      Hi all
      Does anyone have data for Mc Coy electronics XTAL OSCILLATOR MC1=
37X7-001W 10.000 MHz
      SN72758-126
      This is a module and requires +5v, +15v sealed unit but has an=
 adjuster and I expect the osc can be shifted slightly, but enough to=
 be useful for 500 Khz divided down.
      73 mal/g3kev



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>no problem, the info is indeed a bit=
 limited about=20
the Hz/V for the adjustment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The data sheet seems to suggest that&=
nbsp;the=20
control voltage is capable of modulating the oscillator, which implies=
=20
a&nbsp;fast slew rate. This is not particularly good if you intend to=
=20
just&nbsp;use the oscillator as a fixed frequency source. It means you=
 must=20
filter the control voltage better. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Of course using the source at low fre=
quencies, none=20
of the issues of this type of source will manifest themselves signific=
antly, but=20
it is probable that the performance of a microwave local oscillator lo=
cked to=20
one of these may be a bit noisy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>To&nbsp;better understand the unit's=
=20
characteristics, measure the frequency at extremes of the control volt=
age range.=20
That is about all the information that is missing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>most oscillators of this type have a=
 fairly limited=20
tuning range, so you may find pulling the unit to your desired frequen=
cy on=20
500KHz is not possible.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To reach 505 KHz the oscillat=
or must=20
pull to 10.1MHz, which is a large excursion for oscillators of this ty=
pe 10 Hz=20
in 10 MHz is 1ppm. 100KHz in 10 MHz&nbsp; is 10,000 PPM </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>mark</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.ne=
t">mal=20
  hamilton</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 05, 2009=
 4:35 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: Mc Coy</=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mark</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Osc fired up and working fb. I was=
 looking for=20
  more detailed info about ctl&nbsp;voltages ie V versus Freq. This un=
it is=20
  marked 10Mhz when supplied with 5V ctl voltage, and this is spot on=
 with 6v=20
  TTL output.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-co=
lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dmarkhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk       href=3D"mailto:markh=
ughes1@blueyonder.co.uk">Mark</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 04, 20=
09 1:37=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Mc Coy</DI=
V>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>30 sec search on the internet</FO=
NT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A       href=3D"http://www.datas=
heetarchive.com/pdf-datasheets/Datasheets-110/DSAP004237.pdf">http://w=
ww.datasheetarchive.com/pdf-datasheets/Datasheets-110/DSAP004237.pdf</=
A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mark<A       href=3D"http://www.d=
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com%2Fpdf-datasheets%2FDatasheets-110%2FDSAP004237.pdf"></A></FONT></D=
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      <DIV         style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; fon=
t-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktal=
k.net">mal=20
      hamilton</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 04,=
 2009 12:42=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Mc Coy</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Does anyone have data for Mc Co=
y electronics=20
      XTAL OSCILLATOR MC137X7-001W 10.000 MHz</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>SN72758-126</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is a module and requires=
 +5v, +15v=20
      sealed unit but has an adjuster and I expect the osc can be shif=
ted=20
      slightly, but enough to be useful for 500 Khz divided down.</FON=
T></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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