Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0442738000082; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SNUhA-0005VI-53 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:49:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SNUh9-0005V9-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:49:39 +0100 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>) id 1SNUh7-0000ah-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:49:38 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.21.82]) by mwinf5d27 with ME id 2jpT1j00B1mFXqS03jpTmp; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:49:36 +0200 Message-ID: <F5113BE177B54558B8082DD4A462CE58@AGB> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <CE6BEA9F709A4B55A925720C011F39CD@AGB> <4F99A446.4080400@o2.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F99A446.4080400@o2.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:49:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! 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[...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e43fe7093e9b3ae0dc118eec4efba8a5 Subject: Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0220_01CD23EE.120DDF20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1464f99ad425b61 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01CD23EE.120DDF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Peter, Those are the questions asked, the base and removability , checking = up. seems to be a 4 year rule and a 10 year rule , I thought = it was 7 years for no permission being required ? or was that = some time ago ? Tnx -G.. From: Peter Dodd=20 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:38 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info Hi Graham, How the mast is fixed into the ground is irrelevant. The planning = permission is just for the mast. There is no distinction between = permanent and temporary in the planning laws to my knowledge, In the past some have tried to circumvent the planning restriction by = having a portable (mast on trailer) arrangement but I don't think that = works. I live in rather a stuffy private estate and I got permission on appeal = on the grounds that the mast was fold-over and I agreed to only have it = raised at night. Over the years the people who made all the fuss about = the antenna have since died and I put it up when I like. Whether this is = due to indifference or fear that the curse of the radio mast will strike = again is not known. Peter, G3LDO On 26/04/2012 18:53, Graham wrote:=20 Can anyone advise on the planning relevance / requirements to = these questions , with regards to Ae pole at the bottom of the = garden 1. Is the secure base moveable or is it concreted into the ground? 2. Can the mast be readily removed from the secure base? 3. If the mast is a permanent structure, has the refurbishment = resulted in the erection of an entirely new mast, what is the relevance of the base being concreted into the = ground ? I assume the question of detaching the pole from the base is = one of permanent or temporary structure ? replacing like with like would not be classed as a new mast ? Tnx -G -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4959 - Release Date: = 04/25/12 ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01CD23EE.120DDF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19222"></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: = 15px"=20 id=3DMailContainerBody leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 bgColor=3D#ffffff = text=3D#000000=20 CanvasTabStop=3D"true" name=3D"Compose message area"> <DIV>Ok Peter,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Those are the questions asked, the base and = removability , checking up. seems to be a = 4 =20 year rule and a 10 year rule , I = thought=20 it was 7 years for no permission = being =20 required ? or was that some time ago ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tnx -G..</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:g3ldo@o2.co.uk CTRL + Click to follow link"=20 href=3D"mailto:g3ldo@o2.co.uk">Peter Dodd</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:38 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Graham,<BR>How the mast is fixed into the ground is=20 irrelevant. The planning permission is just for the mast. There is no=20 distinction between permanent and temporary in the planning laws to my=20 knowledge,<BR><BR>In the past some have tried to circumvent the planning = restriction by having a portable (mast on trailer) arrangement but I = don't think=20 that works.<BR><BR>I live in rather a stuffy private estate and I got = permission=20 on appeal on the grounds that the mast was fold-over and I agreed to = only have=20 it raised at night. Over the years the people who made all the fuss = about the=20 antenna have since died and I put it up when I like. Whether this is due = to=20 indifference or fear that the curse of the radio mast will strike again = is not=20 known.<BR><BR><BR>Peter, G3LDO<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 26/04/2012 18:53, = Graham wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:CE6BEA9F709A4B55A925720C011F39CD@AGB = type=3D"cite"> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19222"> <DIV>Can anyone advise on the planning = relevance /=20 requirements to these questions , with regards = to Ae pole at the bottom of the garden</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D136552713-26042012><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. = Is the secure=20 base moveable or is it concreted into the ground?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D136552713-26042012><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. = Can the mast be=20 readily removed from the secure base?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D136552713-26042012><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. = If the mast is=20 a permanent structure, has the refurbishment resulted in the erection = of an=20 entirely new mast,</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>what is the relevance of the base = being=20 concreted into the ground ?</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I assume the question of detaching = the pole=20 from the base is one of permanent = or=20 temporary structure ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>replacing like with like would not = be=20 classed as a new mast ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tnx -G</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR SIZE=3D1 noShade> <P align=3Dleft avgcert=3D"" color=3D"#000000">No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A href=3D"http://www.avg.com"=20 moz-do-not-send=3D"true">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2012.0.1913 / = Virus=20 Database: 2411/4959 - Release Date: = 04/25/12</P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01CD23EE.120DDF20--