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Ok Peter,

Those are the  questions  asked,  the  base and removability , checking  =
up. seems  to  be a  4  year  rule  and  a 10  year  rule , I  thought =
it  was  7 years  for  no permission  being  required ? or  was that  =
some time  ago ?

Tnx -G..


From: Peter Dodd=20
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:38 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info


Hi Graham,
How the mast is fixed into the ground is irrelevant. The planning =
permission is just for the mast. There is no distinction between =
permanent and temporary in the planning laws to my knowledge,

In the past some have tried to circumvent the planning restriction by =
having a portable (mast on trailer) arrangement but I don't think that =
works.

I live in rather a stuffy private estate and I got permission on appeal =
on the grounds that the mast was fold-over and I agreed to only have it =
raised at night. Over the years the people who made all the fuss about =
the antenna have since died and I put it up when I like. Whether this is =
due to indifference or fear that the curse of the radio mast will strike =
again is not known.


Peter, G3LDO



On 26/04/2012 18:53, Graham wrote:=20
  Can anyone  advise on the  planning  relevance  / requirements to  =
these  questions  , with  regards to  Ae pole  at the  bottom of the  =
garden

  1. Is the secure base moveable or is it concreted into the ground?
  2. Can the mast be readily removed from the secure base?
  3. If the mast is a permanent structure, has the refurbishment =
resulted in the erection of an entirely new mast,

  what  is the  relevance  of the  base  being concreted into the  =
ground ?

  I assume the  question  of  detaching  the  pole from the  base  is  =
one  of  permanent  or temporary  structure ?

  replacing  like with  like  would  not  be classed as  a  new mast ?

  Tnx -G



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<DIV>Ok Peter,</DIV>
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<DIV>Those are the&nbsp; questions&nbsp; asked,&nbsp; the&nbsp; base and =

removability , checking&nbsp; up. seems&nbsp; to&nbsp; be a&nbsp; =
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Graham,<BR>How the mast is fixed into the ground is=20
irrelevant. The planning permission is just for the mast. There is no=20
distinction between permanent and temporary in the planning laws to my=20
knowledge,<BR><BR>In the past some have tried to circumvent the planning =

restriction by having a portable (mast on trailer) arrangement but I =
don't think=20
that works.<BR><BR>I live in rather a stuffy private estate and I got =
permission=20
on appeal on the grounds that the mast was fold-over and I agreed to =
only have=20
it raised at night. Over the years the people who made all the fuss =
about the=20
antenna have since died and I put it up when I like. Whether this is due =
to=20
indifference or fear that the curse of the radio mast will strike again =
is not=20
known.<BR><BR><BR>Peter, G3LDO<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 26/04/2012 18:53, =
Graham wrote:=20

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