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Content preview: An interesting thing With so many wspr stations running , why in the last week are there only 2 stations showing as decoded in the USA , and non other than we2xgr (who has a valid reason) , Im sure in the past , there was a much higher number of TA decodes with less stations [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4bc3491b614f043141ec87e58a12dcbf Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-15 on 630m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01CE168C.A5C2C280" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8d5130c8521413 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CE168C.A5C2C280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An interesting thing=20 With so many wspr stations running , why in the last week are = there only 2 stations showing as decoded in the USA , and non = other than we2xgr (who has a valid reason) , Im sure in the past , = there was a much higher number of TA decodes with less stations = Q Is it true , there is a carrier-in-pass band de-sensing problem = with the wspr decode ?=20 The large ground wave radius on MF has caused problems with other = modes in the past=20 G.. 2013-02-23 00:42 PA3FNY 0.475642 -27 0 JO22nc 0.5 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5581 290 =20 2013-02-23 02:40 PA3FNY 0.475642 -27 0 JO22nc 0.5 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5581 290 =20 2013-02-23 00:20 PA3ABK 0.475785 -26 0 JO21it 0.5 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5565 290 =20 2013-02-23 00:28 PA3ABK 0.475740 -26 0 JO21it 0.5 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5565 290 =20 2013-02-23 00:52 PA3ABK 0.475740 -21 0 JO21it 0.5 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5565 290 =20 From: wolf_dl4yhf=20 Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 1:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-15 on 630m Hi Roland and all, But a "dial frequency" of 472 kHz would place the beacon-like Opera = transmission annoyingly close to the center of CW activity (472 to 474). = Well I'm not really active on MF right now but this will hopefully = change soon. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . Am 01.03.2013 11:00, schrieb Roland Bruestle: Hello Roman, this is a good idea. The question is, shall we Change the WSPR frequencies to Opera = frequencies or opposite. The frequency for WSPR with 474.2kHz is already used in Europe and = US.=20 WSPR15 should be together with WSPR2 for the reason someone wonts to = test the difference between WSPR15 to WSPR2. So I would wish that the Opera frequency would be shifted to the dial = frequency of 472kHz. 73 Roland DL3NDR Am 28.02.2013 22:22, schrieb Roman RW3ADB: Hi Roland, LF! I was out of MF 16 feb, excuse. May be trying MF tomorrow night? What do you say about idea use a one dial freq for wsrp-15 and Op8? This is double own chance to RX here. Roman RW3ADB. Sat Feb 16 2013 00:46:31 GMT+0400 (Local Standard Time) = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Roland Bruestle (r@mbsks.franken.de) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: Hi Roman, yes I made a pause yesterday. I am active now with WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX 475.817 kHz = (1.67kHz). Good luck Gru=C3=9F Roland DL3NDR Am 14.02.2013 05:27, schrieb Roman RW3ADB: Hi Roland, LF! I monitor WSPR-15 yesterday, but nothing. Hope to any activity tomorrow. For info: = http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2013/20130213_475khz_QRM/20130213_WSPR15_475khz.01= .JPG Local QRM on 475 khz here. The problem with automatical upload spots is not resolve. May be who is know whats ports used by new WSPR prog for upload? I can try to open it on the router. The other question to all. The freq's for OPERA and other digi modes vy nearby on the some = HF bands. This is to get a choice to monitor two mode at once. Will be good to cooperate OPERA and WSPR-15 into nearby pass = bands w/o the local QRM on 630m. Roman RW3ADB. Mon Feb 11 2013 23:33:10 GMT+0400 (Local Standard Time) = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Roland Bruestle (r@mbsks.franken.de) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: Hallo, MW-friends, I am still transmitting WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX 475.817 = kHz (1.67kHz). I hope that I have solved the with my signal. The reason was = the USB-Soundkard. Good luck. 73 Roland DL3NDR ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CE168C.A5C2C280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An interesting  thing
 
With  so many  wspr   stations  running = , =20 why in the  last week  are there  only  2 =20 stations  showing as  decoded in  the  USA , and non = other=20 than  we2xgr  (who has a valid reason)  , Im = sure  in=20 the  past , there  was a much  higher   = number =20 of  TA decodes  with  less  stations
 
Q Is it  true , there  is a  carrier-in-pass =20 band  de-sensing problem with the  wspr  decode  ? =
 
The  large  ground wave  radius on MF has = caused =20 problems  with  other modes  in the  past
 
G..
 
 
 2013-02-23 00:42   PA3FNY   0.475642   -27   0   JO22nc   0.5   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5581   290 
 2013-02-23 02:40   PA3FNY   0.475642   -27   0   JO22nc   0.5   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5581   290 
 2013-02-23 00:20   PA3ABK   0.475785   -26   0   JO21it   0.5   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5565   290 
 2013-02-23 00:28   PA3ABK   0.475740   -26   0   JO21it   0.5   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5565   290 
 2013-02-23 00:52   PA3ABK   0.475740   -21   0   JO21it   0.5   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5565   290 
 
 

From: wolf_dl4yhf
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 1:11 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-15 on 630m

Hi Roland and all,

But a "dial = frequency" of=20 472 kHz would place the beacon-like Opera transmission annoyingly close = to the=20 center of CW activity (472 to 474). Well I'm not really active on MF = right now=20 but this will hopefully change soon.

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF=20 .

Am 01.03.2013 11:00, schrieb Roland Bruestle:
Hello Roman,
this is a good = idea.
The=20 question is, shall we Change the WSPR frequencies to Opera frequencies = or=20 opposite.
The frequency for  WSPR with 474.2kHz is already = used in=20 Europe and US.
WSPR15 should be together with WSPR2 for the reason = someone=20 wonts to test the difference between WSPR15 to WSPR2.
So I would = wish that=20 the Opera frequency would be shifted  to the dial frequency of=20 472kHz.

73
Roland DL3NDR


Am 28.02.2013 22:22, = schrieb=20 Roman RW3ADB:

Hi Roland, LF!

I was out of MF 16 feb, excuse.

May be trying MF tomorrow night?

What do you say about idea use a one dial freq for wsrp-15 and = Op8?

This is double own chance to RX here.

Roman RW3ADB.

Sat Feb 16 2013 00:46:31 GMT+0400 (Local Standard Time) = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Roland Bruestle (r@mbsks.franken.de) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB:


Hi Roman,
yes I made a = pause=20 yesterday.
I am active now with WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX=20 475.817  kHz (1.67kHz).

Good = luck

Gru=C3=9F
Roland=20 DL3NDR

Am 14.02.2013 05:27, schrieb Roman RW3ADB:

Hi Roland, LF!

I monitor WSPR-15 yesterday, but nothing.

Hope to any activity tomorrow.

For info:

http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2013/20130213_475khz_QRM/= 20130213_WSPR15_475khz.01.JPG

Local QRM on 475 khz here.

The problem with automatical upload spots is not resolve.

May be who is know whats ports used by new WSPR prog for = upload?

I can try to open it on the router.

The other question to all.

The freq's for OPERA and other digi modes vy nearby on the = some HF=20 bands. This is to get a choice to monitor two mode at once.

Will be good to cooperate OPERA and WSPR-15 into nearby pass = bands=20 w/o the local QRM on 630m.

Roman RW3ADB.

Mon Feb 11 2013 23:33:10 GMT+0400 (Local Standard Time)=20 = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Roland Bruestle (r@mbsks.franken.de) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB:


Hallo, MW-friends,
I = am still=20 transmitting WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX 475.817  kHz=20 (1.67kHz).
I hope that I have solved the with my signal. = The reason=20 was the USB-Soundkard.
Good luck.

73
Roland=20 = DL3NDR


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