Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v4PCAs1n009398 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 14:10:55 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dDrVa-0006co-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2017 13:04:50 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dDrVZ-0006cf-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2017 13:04:49 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dDrVW-0007bd-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2017 13:04:48 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.208.139.196]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MgYGJ-1dYRQI2sdT-00O0OA for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 14:04:46 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <1456380282.20170524154713@gmail.com> <5925A16B.7050100@posteo.de> <4F1550D1E41F4437969FE559D083515C@Clemens0811> <1214966465.20170525122451@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1214966465.20170525122451@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 14:04:44 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdLVSdIEbi3iWDhMRdqemDVvdvYj8QABIbuw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jlQpeAee1ahXFN7YbfEtGpQmeuMdoa2hT6TleLhdGqgt2XGxEA3 Ny7ze2THXO6KoyUW2zu9uoJkZrFujWYY3glLw9LQ/+2orjLaXfCNR1fg9iGrz2bidGgQejZ rXOLokUABXRivzJqKZgEIfIfvwmAkYaSn45aCgNahizn34g4DVilnUtr+yKbL+gy0fgVD17 18GyQf/HtPjnEnFWufJFw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:r8S7xwJyji0=:pMqGuWec6ffuKE2QrLNDlm 9nhHJBdmTtDhEg0qx6gX+BxqngZhNheifciT4el/p7AilwOYkmGrFmst2b7zoYQyBbHy39+jQ vHzXFPzfi1CQaCvhU/MeLftbng4QQECUCXYr8sPrFZbp6mih+wR1KvyNBEhNzONnA2s3oYM0S mAte/M95vDd905BrHUyx3cveU7lGK2lyVctygNM7QtPlSkTDKshSiPeklC/uIHXbF1VER7Gli ScqK9u4lXcI318X1u2O2nJwjhLOiiGJtW9Mi61RWt2UR3cfN6XeKsKF9cbDp5Cfj6Era/OeIk lOBG7qp7R4XDRxuMR7qKG18iUWAo5txzTyS/VvrVAkCqQpZnUnohjHbWaKbIQ3khnFBTXPNnF cBCMa4pUhVCYdM9nnCzpuvVlxzZ+idPweXur/82XjUS0+B+cwO81ZpwUr6mb1D+9Bv/qgHzlI atcrCCzfiyGWRqqBCXBo2M6tbBGbIH//+zLRPt0eqWMZQsZ0Mrbp0xy7Kd5fjTrovlGmnQqS9 Ipt3UvmtSa+EDoQ4zNYPQd8dTKFCJyQNUj4+VT79SF0Bpk87K8rkBVeUHFbcSnsKDBtpOJNUO ixNzzvNF/c48J6/d4NXpGV0nYLzKc75Jg94pDQ1KpLmznvmgH/1dIQ/Xo1rLqd6ac8og4x3P5 w7fURA0PIlj7vpgdVCjK7K4NftIfzQJYwUO3SPEk6akdY8O3cM8onVETbIaAm6+oZ6PGJ24Io Z96j9lVPRfLjo6PhAGJA3CS8SgodtYkY11COiy4RXabH2TMJcnTdmaYztCHKfuKEkkcCg5YjX CCPqlAy X-Scan-Signature: 7001055fa59a9c23b9831ea6d317a074 Subject: RE: LF: Iron dust toroids and heating Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11760 Hello Chris, >So in simple terms, does this mean that it is to be expected that the >G3YXM LPF will NOT work correctly on the W1VD amp? If so, again in >simple terms please ;) , why? Markus (DF6NM) has given an excellent expanation in his posting from 7/14/2007: "...the PI-type combiner per se is not the problem. All I was trying to say is that you have to prevent it from short-circuiting the harmonics directly at the output of a (voltage-mode) class-D PA. In that case, I would recommend a T-type low-pass filter between each PA and combiner input, starting with a series inductor rather than a shunt capacitor. Note that the desired harmonic load impedance depends on the type of Class-D PA: Voltage-mode class D with rectangular voltage and sinusoidal current should see a high impedance termination for harmonics, i.e. an inductor or series resonant circuit. On the other hand, current-mode class D designs would have sinusoidal voltage and rectangular current, and require a low-impedance shunt for harmonics..." 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:25 PM >To: Clemens Paul >Subject: Re: LF: Iron dust toroids and heating > >Hello Clemens,