Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1169; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t0AAiK67024026 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:44:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y9tOb-0005mh-MD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:35:53 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y9tOb-0005mV-1H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:35:53 +0000 Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9tOY-0007Ay-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:35:51 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.82]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 50B4070000092 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 05:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (ipb21bee4a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.27.238.74]) by mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 7D7A838000082 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 05:35:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <46D2E1AF22D14849AD1095081F7613AB@AGB>, <000c01d02b55$440817e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>, <8592571821BB4496B94ADC934CBC0555@AGB> <54AFB76C.6741.54B7FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <54B07290.6030708@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:35:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1420886148; bh=khM7HiSb70SUOyeBFVEB9c1GJcfhG6SW5NBC7sM8C6A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fuSBfhl+j89tBJKlb9VMbJQx9IF8c4KiVxi12Vbv4gemE3jkEtWp0lIZmxO9wrt1/ c6KNiv8KSp9hBAvXHktf0y8AfC+b9vSevklohSWn5XmDX9Bn9NlIG14+WmJCk4F2hp JFSAl5wPUUj+LcIoWd09fyE9OO6qwAubMMRD9Ffk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af95254b100812c89 X-AOL-IP: 178.27.238.74 X-Scan-Signature: 004f7f7656eeac34aa35b19f1e48f84d Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX on 8270 Hz? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01D02CC9.91D33110" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1913 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01D02CC9.91D33110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan,=20 the long dash is the DF6NM transmission on Jan 6 (see message pasted = beneath). Thanks for the compliments anyway ;-) 73, Markus From: DK7FC=20 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 1:30 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DJ8WX on 8270 Hz? Hi Uwe, It that your signal? My report is a bit late but nothing is lost. Well, who else could it be? :-) It is the best SNR i ever saw from you, by far! 73, Stefan From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:05 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: VLF: 8270 carrier The carrier has been switched off at 10:00 UT. The phase from the = Rubidium-derived syntheszier was stable all the time, and the antenna = current remained constant within a couple of percent. Radiated power is = estimated around 10 =B5W, although the lower temperature of the = surrounding vegetation may have helped a bit on the effective height. Good signals appeared on three VLF grabbers http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html = (DK7FC) http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/ (OK2BVG) http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1420527600&b=3D120&s=3Dsp Paul = Nicholson (Todmorden) The signal in Heidelberg was good at night and went down in daylight, = while OK2BVG experienced the opposite behavior. This has been seen = before and is expected from the superposition of groundwave and = ionospheric components at different ranges. As far as I can see, = fieldstrength at Todmorden was relatively constant throughout the night, = but dropped sharply around sunrise. I am sorry that my LF grabber is pretty much unusable during these VLF = transmissions, due to noise from partial discharges around the loading = coil. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:27 AM To: Paul=20 Cc: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX ; Uwe Jannsen=20 Subject: 8270 carrier To get a bit better idea on possible winter nighttime opportunities, = I've started an unmodulated carrier on 8270 since 0:17 UT. Antenna = current is 0.31 A . Will leave it on for a couple of hours if nothing = goes wrong.=20 All the best, Markus ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01D02CC9.91D33110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
 
the long dash is the DF6NM=20 transmission on Jan 6 (see message pasted beneath). Thanks for the=20 compliments anyway ;-)
 
73, Markus
 

From:=20 DK7FC
Sent: Saturday, January = 10, 2015 1:30=20 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: DJ8WX on 8270 = Hz?

Hi Uwe,

It that your signal? My = report is a=20 bit late but nothing is lost.
Well, who else could it be? = :-)

It is=20 the best SNR i ever saw from you, by far!

73, = Stefan
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: VLF: 8270 carrier

The carrier has been switched off at 10:00 UT. = The phase=20 from the Rubidium-derived syntheszier was stable all the time, and the = antenna=20 current remained constant within a couple of percent. Radiated = power is=20 estimated around 10 =B5W, although the lower temperature of the = surrounding=20 vegetation may have helped a bit on the effective height.
 
Good signals = appeared on three=20 VLF grabbers
http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grab= ber.html (DK7FC)
http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/ (OK2BVG)
http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1420527600&b=3D12= 0&s=3Dsp Paul Nicholson (Todmorden)
 
The signal in = Heidelberg=20 was good at night and went down in daylight, while OK2BVG experienced = the=20 opposite behavior. This has been seen before and is expected from = the=20 superposition of groundwave and ionospheric components at different = ranges. As=20 far as I can see, fieldstrength at Todmorden was relatively = constant=20 throughout the night, but dropped sharply around sunrise.
 
I am sorry that my = LF grabber is=20 pretty much unusable during these VLF transmissions, due to noise = from=20 partial discharges around the loading coil.
 
All the = best,
Markus = (DF6NM)

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:27 AM
To: Paul
Cc: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX ; Uwe Jannsen
Subject: 8270 carrier

To get a bit better idea on possible = winter=20 nighttime opportunities, I've started an = unmodulated carrier on=20 8270 since 0:17 UT.  Antenna current is 0.31 A . Will leave it = on for=20 a couple of hours if nothing goes wrong. 
 
All the best,
Markus
 
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