Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.71]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-86944dcfbc6021d; Sun, 15 May 2011 07:43:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DB74538000093; Sun, 15 May 2011 07:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QLZi6-0007lc-Bi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:10 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QLZi5-0007lT-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:09 +0100 Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.248]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QLZi3-0003EI-O7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:09 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.181] by nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 11:42:01 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.63] by tm12.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 11:42:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2011 11:42:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 925150.81776.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18001 invoked from network); 15 May 2011 11:42:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vufisCtVsvnCo5sLiKvS+Uf3q7bEJ43puFN2og6uZLuND6zRSS9to18PCp+5JPXi81+vwUuXsPe8HQEOr4rO+tUI5saU4yrN5rrtlOBwbDxWjgFczKvAr85QW1Ofo7tS9+me+IWxVpb6wuintpHumDc2LhgFM11EQ5lhQVSOdEY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1305459721; bh=AGV2ar5bs/5jL4hgmVzGSjtx65JXfwJDUwoD3R/2DHk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=djCKoQV0O+xv/iOi+Liy8c6cAXdnntMzVrpjS/VUWAqo3XVlA+yC49ZjyJeTK/qtlr8hXJgrRRA7rOatx5me3WhDHeAbcv4Dff5COQ2nemKTX6lALEF3ZpaTbCyCviiEK5zFJgVb3eSEDLR9QQGqnryVDdz0ml8B2S2/ZbybLio= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@109.156.118.245 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2011 11:42:01 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: YvbJr48VM1mP3Vn4U9kb9_ZQj3T86.IWcVYOsg.breamg7A FMxlTQnR8.uawOza5u3j9e6zvjbxmMhCVHp5NYqY59.sUKZ2QwNwCrhlFMu3 5.eYcQHWMAPPTaRTJRK1WOTgodnjRzZr7WhhebAanRZ_BkHPFHX2g12KyrG4 KASXuNBzAuSh1Nt873lq5xi.5qoS0p7ItQa94DmjGd28IJ.cBBupWmUBHmj_ UTTKd46SFkhdRnqFxW1dmKA0QymR6p.difQiZn_Cy7BZ3pKFsBRxxbV0VFSA fcBizzcUwOfOcKtStXzeSfW2wpUGYLr0IX0PQAjfAS6N6HgLrXEjRfwm8ovE Qx9zTtUIBCFP9VgyC7tR7LZgNr5QrhTH7vR_Mx33HZxX_MfHgqshPr7Jr.CB K4ur8240gCNg3ZjIzo_cskgGewo.dwPtuOso_r6bbB9U- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <80703.53770.qm@web28515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4DCEDBB3.1020808@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4DCFA642.5070305@m0dts.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DCFA642.5070305@m0dts.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:42:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18417 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LF SWR Bridge Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1474dcfbc5e76f3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Rob, LF Group, The inductance of the transformer is probably a bit on the low side (the reactance of the total 24turn winding should be much greater than the 68R load resistance), but should be enough to get at least reasonably close to balance - you should be able to see at least some reduction on the "reflect" side with 50R load connected. Check that the phasing of the secondary winding is correct - the centre tap should be the connection between the "start" of one winding and the "finish" of the other. What should happen is the RF voltage on one half of the current transformer secondary is equal in magnitude, but opposite in phase to the load voltage sensed by the capacitive voltage divider when the load is 50R. The component values shown look about right to do this. One way to check this would be to: -Disconnect the "hot" end of the capacitive potential divider from the TX input terminal. Note the meter readings with the TX running into 50R load. -Disable the current transformer by shorting the 24 turn secondary and re-connect the capacitors .Check the meter deflections with 50R load - it should be possible to get these the same as in the first test by adjusting the trimmer capacitor. You can find some other ideas about LF antenna tuning aids in the file LF_Tuning_aids.pdf at https://sites.google.com/site/uk500khz/members-files/files Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU