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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: You've seen Mals station then ! When I worked at racal , there was a Rx on a swiss mountain , that could be used via a phone line , that was round 1974 sdr-tx I though I had found one a while back but it was a qam modulated dongle , [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 18c34d0630bd8a741008f8972a39cc18 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CEACEB.422535F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2351 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CEACEB.422535F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You've seen Mals station then ! When I worked at racal , there was a Rx on a swiss mountain , = that could be used via a phone line , that was round 1974=20 sdr-tx I though I had found one a while back but it was a qam = modulated dongle ,=20 G,=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Ha ha ha enjoyed that outpouring of indignation. Graham why can't Twente = Uni do a Web TX SDR on their RX site so we don't have to do anything. = They could buy Switzerland (we could all club together) and put an = antenna on the top of the Matterhorn fitted with a huge capacity hat.. = To paraphrase Al Pacino ".... sounds big....". 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013, 22:56 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Wish some one would hurry up and make a usb dongle sdt-tx to = match=20 the sdr-rx , then I can put the 1 meter cube of equipment on = e-bay=20 get my spare room back [ not the x2 skanti 250w amps and 100 = amp=20 psu though , thats only 1/2 a meter 3 ] that would be a good=20 article G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "pat" Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 10:42 PM To: Cc: "Graham" Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band > Actually, and to give some credit where it is due, they have recently=20 > published some interesting stuff by Stuart G8CYW on optical comms. in = PW.=20 > A 30khz sub-carrier on a beam of light after transverting from the = 80Metre=20 > band seems like interesting fun! > > 73 > > On 08/09/13 22:31, pat wrote: >> Don't forget that some of us also have fond memories of "Someone's = Waving=20 >> Magazine", Graham! >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> On 08/09/13 18:29, Graham wrote: >>> And those who go a little more , >>> Cams' comic >>> so im reliably informed >>> G, >>> But , what actually is he talking about in the article ? >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "pat" >>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:20 PM >>> To: >>> Cc: "Warren Ziegler" >>> Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band >>> >>>> Warren, >>>> While many of us (particularly those of us of a certain age) have = an=20 >>>> affection stretching back to near childhood for that publication it = is=20 >>>> not for nothing that we nickname it "Practically Witless Monthly" = :>) >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08/09/13 02:53, Warren Ziegler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his "Practical Wireless" column=20 >>>>> "Technical for the terrified" this month on the 137 kHz band in = which=20 >>>>> he writes it off as worthless. >>>>> >>>>> "With the limitation of antenna efficiency together with a = bandwidth=20 >>>>> of only 100Hz, there really isn't much that can be done with this=20 >>>>> band." >>>>> >>>>> Anyone on the list know Tony? >>>>> Who is in the best position to write a rebuttal that PW will = publish? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --=20 >>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>>>> WD2XGJ >>>>> WD2XSH/23 >>>>> WE2XEB/2 >>>>> WE2XGR/1 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --=20 >>>> 73 de pat g4gvw >>>> es gd dx >>>> qth nr Felixstowe >>>> East Coast UK >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > > --=20 > 73 de pat g4gvw > es gd dx > qth nr Felixstowe > East Coast UK > >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CEACEB.422535F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You've  seen Mals   station  then !
 
When I worked  at racal  , there  was  a  = Rx =20 on a swiss  mountain  , that  could  be  = used  via=20 a  phone  line  , that  was round  1974
 
sdr-tx  I though  I had found one a  while  = back =20 but it was a  qam  modulated  dongle  ,
 
G,
 
 

From: M0FMT
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz = band

 
Ha ha ha enjoyed that outpouring of indignation. Graham why = can't=20 Twente Uni do a Web TX SDR on their RX site so we don't have to do = anything.=20 They could buy Switzerland (we could all club together) and put an = antenna on=20 the top of the Matterhorn fitted with a huge capacity hat.. To = paraphrase Al=20 Pacino ".... sounds big....".
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: = Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Sunday, 8 = September=20 2013, 22:56
Subject: = Re: LF:=20 G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band

Wish  some  one would  = hurry up=20 and  make a  usb dongle  sdt-tx  to  match=20
the  sdr-rx  , then  I can  put  the  = 1 meter=20 cube of  equipment  on e-bay
get  my  spare = room =20 back  [ not the  x2 skanti  250w  amps  = and  100=20 amp
psu  though , thats  only  1/2  a  = meter 3=20 ]  that  would  be a  good=20
article

G,

--------------------------------------------= ------
From:=20 "pat" <g4gvw@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, = September=20 08, 2013 10:42 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
Cc:=20 "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= ;
Subject:=20 Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band

> Actually, and to = give some=20 credit where it is due, they have recently
> published some = interesting=20 stuff by Stuart G8CYW on optical comms. in PW.
> A 30khz = sub-carrier on a=20 beam of light after transverting from the 80Metre
> band seems = like=20 interesting fun!
>
> 73
>
> On 08/09/13 22:31, = pat=20 wrote:
>> Don't forget that some of us also have fond memories = of=20 "Someone's Waving
>> Magazine", = Graham!
>>
>>=20 73
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On = 08/09/13=20 18:29, Graham wrote:
>>> And those who go a little  = more =20 ,
>>> Cams' comic
>>> so  im reliably  = informed
>>> G,
>>> But  , what =20 actually  is  he  talking  about in the  = article =20 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>=20 --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: = "pat"=20 <g4gvw@aol.com>
>>> = Sent:=20 Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:20 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
>>>=20 Cc: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>&= gt;=20 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz=20 band
>>>
>>>> Warren,
>>>> = While many=20 of us (particularly those of us of a certain age) have an =
>>>>=20 affection stretching back to near childhood for that publication it is=20
>>>> not for nothing that we nickname it "Practically = Witless=20 Monthly" :>)
>>>>
>>>>=20 73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On = 08/09/13=20 02:53, Warren Ziegler = wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>=20 Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his "Practical Wireless" column=20
>>>>> "Technical for the terrified" this month on the = 137 kHz=20 band in which
>>>>> he writes it off as=20 worthless.
>>>>>
>>>>> "With the = limitation=20 of antenna efficiency together with a bandwidth
>>>>> = of only=20 100Hz, there really isn't much that can be done with this=20
>>>>>=20 band."
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anyone on = the list=20 know Tony?
>>>>> Who is in the best position to write = a=20 rebuttal that PW will=20 publish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>&= gt;>=20 --
>>>>> 73 Warren = K2ORS
>>>>>   =20             = WD2XGJ
>>>>> =20              =20 WD2XSH/23
>>>>>          =  =20     WE2XEB/2
>>>>>      =    =20      =20 WE2XGR/1
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>><= BR>>>>>=20 --
>>>> 73 de pat g4gvw
>>>> es gd=20 dx
>>>> qth nr Felixstowe
>>>> East Coast=20 UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>
>
>=20 --
> 73 de pat g4gvw
> es gd dx
> qth nr = Felixstowe
>=20 East Coast UK
>
>=20



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