Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AF82638000091; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RSBmw-0004gE-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:06:46 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RSBmw-0004g5-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:06:46 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RSBmu-0001e1-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:06:46 +0000 Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pAKI6dvp023278 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:06:39 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4d0720af.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.32.175]) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 02100E0000F7 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:06:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4EC92D9F.21482.1C03267@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:06:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1321812399; bh=7KunEo39rIR+mNC97i2CnthQBzSlRPagNOL7BPiV77w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pfJNPnVDGS17E6ycZX8127AC5eE0ac+UzGOdup2hnIgguiBtXnlX6Z6Ka2vT7/Kef Nv0CO9I/efAGcBiCVno3fcwCgv8PFnXiLA7JNp5LTZcIr4t4VeX5FIg4gmAEI5UuiD UG7BcDsw+rlTGEq+DqLgf5D4REcAx8ptg9PHyIDM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:401528160:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TF3HZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CCA7B7.733C57D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:456657056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d275.2 ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40584ec941fc34e5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CCA7B7.733C57D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, interesting. The propagation is probably by daytime D-layer reflection, = which typically exhibits a flat maximum at noon time. This is = conspicuouis eg. on the DCF / HGA plots from 4X and YO, and on Eu = Loran-C signals as well. On the sea path between G and TF, this may be = augmented by a groundwave component with relatively little attenuation. BTW Stefan's strong DFCW signal is producing an unusual modulation = effect on Halld=F3r's grabber, as both the background noise and all = other signals seem to brighten up during the dashes. Just like a kind of = negative AGC... Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 From: Mike Dennison=20 Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: TF3HZ I was amazed to be received well on TF3HZ's grabber over a daylight=20 path from 1500 UTC today.=20 Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CCA7B7.733C57D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
 
interesting. The propagation is probably by = daytime=20 D-layer reflection, which typically exhibits a flat maximum at noon=20 time. This is conspicuouis eg. on the DCF / HGA = plots from=20 4X and YO, and on Eu Loran-C signals as well. On the sea path between G = and TF,=20 this may be augmented by a groundwave component with relatively = little=20 attenuation.
 
BTW Stefan's strong DFCW signal is = producing an=20 unusual modulation effect on Halld=F3r's grabber, as both the = background=20 noise and all other signals seem to brighten up during the dashes. = Just=20 like a kind of negative AGC...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

 
From: Mike Dennison
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:41 PM
Subject: LF: TF3HZ

I was amazed to be received well on TF3HZ's grabber over = a=20 daylight
path from 1500 UTC today.

Mike,=20 G3XDV
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