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Subject: Re: LF: 160 to 190 KHz a real magic band ?
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1/4  KW ?

Andy  is talking about   1  watt   dc  feed  to the  PA  and a  short Ae , I 
thought  2000  kmt was good  going for  1 watt

is it the  same  band ?

G..

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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:08 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: 160 to 190 KHz a real magic band ?

>
> I occasionally put a beacon on the 180 kHz band with 250 Watts out and
> have been copied in France and the Netherlands during the time each
> night that Europe 1 is off.
> No magic, about the same results as 137kHz except that 137 is quieter.
>
>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>> Graham,
>> Have a listen after dark, I seem to remember it was quite horrendous last
>> time I looked at that part of the spectrum. I will have another listen
>> tonight. I think the EU chaps wait until Europe1 has stopped Txing. Here 
>> is
>> one frequency I know of, extract from Joe's e-mail.
>> VO1NA, 184.509.3kHz
>> TX about 5 watts 0.4 amps to 100m wire at 15 m high.
>> 73,
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>> LF MF Grabber - Web Site - Blogspot - 9kHz Grabber
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 December 2010 16:22, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok Gary,
>>>
>>> Seems to  be  some quite big  gaps  in that  spectrum , big  enough  for
>>> a  cw filter and  wspr signal to  sit  with  no  splash ?
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> Nb looks like someone has the  spam  filter -mal-adjusted- ?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Gary - G4WGT
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: 160 to 190 KHz a real magic band ?
>>> Graham,
>>> I have occasionally read mails on LF regarding U.S. 184kHz qrs beacons &
>>> captures from Europe. Apparently there is a very powerful broadcast 
>>> station
>>> in Europe on a near frequency which causes high qrm when on, I believe 
>>> it is
>>> "Europe1"
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> On 28 December 2010 12:16, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lifted  from the  WSPR  web site  http://wsprnet.org/drupal/
>>>>
>>>> 1 watt and  15  mtrs  of antenna ,decoding  over  1148 kmtrs  , (best
>>>> round 2000k)    seems  to  make the  137  attempts look a little 'coy 
>>>> with
>>>> somewhat  bigger power levels and  rather  large  arrays , (possibly
>>>> mal-adjusted ?)
>>>>
>>>> Is this  a band  like 500  with  enhanced  propagation ?
>>>>
>>>> WHAT IS THE  POSSIBILITY OF A  TA  DECODE ?
>>>>
>>>> The frequency range is 160 to 190 KHz. This is most commonly known as
>>>> Part-15 operation ( under our FCC Part-15 rules ). The basics: Power is
>>>> limited to 1 Watt DC Input to the Final amplifier, and the antenna 
>>>> length
>>>> cannot exceed 15 meters, including the feed line,
>>>>
>>>> (XR4TN  is the experimental  call  of  KU4XR)
>>>>
>>>> 2010-12-10 11:16 XR4TN 0.185701 -27 0 EM75xr +30 1.000 W1VD FN31is 1148
>>>> G..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>
>