Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t03EMslx003261 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:22:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y7PVK-0003WD-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:16:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y7PVK-0003Vz-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:16:34 +0000 Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7PVH-0000uk-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:16:33 +0000 Received: from mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.226]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4BFE070000096 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (ipb21bee4a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.27.238.74]) by mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id B8E5B38000091 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <54A7F051.472.CFA307@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <619417704.3944496.1420292758722.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:16:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1420294589; bh=twl2sKXhoZXDIBLr6EMJrzhashi7GuGtEyZGCAEgBsM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kwRZPqEe6C8EtsBuWioCgAXJ8yENnkBaq/keGTFxbqhjPuPkHLG3t2fE1Wq0xIo8t SMmQDAX6XFiBBbeExpqq3M0Jdo+RkfDsQpuTLQIMyaVUd19xlIT8+WKsBa6VLpabxp Ngk/XbgQ8TSbzZnPfcAH6oEcYD0vAUlDv7XtAbHE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe254a7f9b90d76 X-AOL-IP: 178.27.238.74 X-Scan-Signature: ccc04899dbdbe78a3093b8d21fefef60 Subject: Re: LF: AW: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01D02768.3D46B330" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1748 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D02768.3D46B330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris, Mike, ... but it's a different kind of fun to have realtime two-way contacts = instead of internet feedback.=20 I would have loved to answer your CQ today. I like those faster QRSS / = DFCW modes, because they are a good compromize between sensitivity and = speed, match my limited aural-CW abilities, and allow me to take a nip = on the coffee cup rather than hectically trying to write code on the = pad. Unfortunately due to the light way my antenna is built, I do not = dare to raise it in windy times or transmit during heavy rain. Best 73, Markus From: Chris Osborn=20 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 2:45 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: AW: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz Hello Mike, Good to hear from you and thanks for the report. You're quite right and QRM is a real killer especially on the lower = frequency bands. This Christmas break I was plagued with QRM even up to 20m from = neighbour's festive lighting. I'll be retiring from work soon so will have to get QRV on LF digi modes = as that seems the way to go. 73 Chris On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 13:38, Mike Dennison = wrote: Chris. You are 599 here of course. As for activity, I think CW is much harder now because the noise floor in Europe from DCF and HGA is much greater than ten years ago. Plus local TVs, wall-warts etc, create much QRM to 'wideband' modes like CW. I used to work DL quite easily using much less power than I run now, but have recently failed to be heard by several DLs calling CQ. However there is still a lot of activity on narrower modes. One of my transmissions on Opera32 last night resulted in 10 reports, 5 of which were greater than 1000km away and a couple more than 2000km away. A few nights ago I received Op32 reports from 18 stations in 9 countries, including Russia. Just think how long it would have taken to work them all on QRSS3 or 10. 73 de Mike G3XDV Chris wrote: Thanks again Joe and Markus for the great screen shots. I'm trying 137.635 kHz now to clear that QRM. I'm just looking at my old LF logbook of ten years ago - January 2005 (in date order) There was a lot of activity then, both on CW and QRSS: OH5UFO PA0BWL F6CWA OK2BVG DF0WD M0FMT YU7AR G3XDV=20 M0BMU F6BWO HA6PC DL2HRE Z38AV G3YXM SM6BHZ DF6NM=20 G3AQC S57A HF7VPM IK5ZPV G3OLB DK1IS G3WCB G3LDO F6CHT Happy days. 73Chris G3XIZ ... ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D02768.3D46B330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Chris,=20 Mike,
 
... but it's a different kind = of fun to have=20 realtime two-way contacts instead of internet = feedback. 
 
I would have loved to answer your=20 CQ today. I like those faster QRSS / DFCW modes, because = they are=20 a good compromize between sensitivity and speed, match my limited = aural-CW=20 abilities, and allow me to take a nip on the coffee cup rather = than=20 hectically trying to write code on the pad. Unfortunately due to the = light way=20 my antenna is built, I do not dare to raise it in windy times or=20 transmit during heavy rain.
 
Best 73,
Markus
 

From:=20 Chris Osborn
Sent: Saturday, January = 03, 2015 2:45=20 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: AW: G3XIZ = CQ 137.7=20 kHz

Hello=20 Mike,

Good to hear=20 from you and thanks for the report.

You're quite=20 right and QRM is a real killer especially on the lower frequency=20 bands.
This Christmas=20 break I was plagued with QRM even up to 20m from neighbour's festive=20 lighting.

I'll be retiring=20 from work soon so will have to get QRV on LF digi modes as that seems = the way to=20 go.

73
Chris


On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 13:38, Mike Dennison=20 <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com> wrote:
  Chris.
You are 599 here of course.

As for=20 activity, I think CW is much harder now because the noise
floor in=20 Europe from DCF and HGA is much greater than ten years ago.
Plus=20 local TVs, wall-warts etc, create much QRM to 'wideband' modeslike CW. I used to work DL quite easily using much less = power than=20 I
run now, but have recently failed to be heard by = several DLs=20 calling
CQ.

However = there is still a=20 lot of activity on narrower modes. One of my
transmissions on=20 Opera32 last night resulted in 10 reports, 5 of
which = were greater=20 than 1000km away and a couple more than 2000km
away. A = few nights=20 ago I received Op32 reports from 18 stations in 9
countries,=20 including Russia. Just think how long it would have taken
to work=20 them all on QRSS3 or 10.

73 de Mike = G3XDV
 Chris = wrote:   Thanks again Joe and = Markus for=20 the great screen shots.

I'm trying = 137.635 kHz now=20 to clear that QRM.
 I'm just looking at = my old LF=20 logbook of ten years ago - January 2005
(in date order) = There was=20 a lot of activity then, both on CW and QRSS:
 OH5UFO  = PA0BWL =20 F6CWA  OK2BVG  DF0WD  M0FMT  YU7AR  = G3XDV M0BMU F6BWO  HA6PC  DL2HRE  Z38AV  = G3YXM =20 SM6BHZ  DF6NM 
G3AQC  S57A  = HF7VPM =20 IK5ZPV  G3OLB  DK1IS  G3WCB  G3LDO  F6CHT Happy days. 73Chris = G3XIZ... ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D02768.3D46B330--