Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9cb498b6f18266; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:58:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME077-9cb498b6f18266; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:58:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LVDAU-0004iF-Jo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:57:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LVDAU-0004i6-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:57:58 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVDAX-0001A2-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:58:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 67711 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 22:57:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lS9QbY6qScKoY560Uprs9aPpBK/G3/RV71FAiYYuXy89rnma/wCY83CjudFjxbi/nmhs57x7blz9I25+SoL102zLLf/Cz4l6/BRUR57rdAlch+N+fSwnhMt+a4Eykga2oa8tKxpZ2x+fgOJu6Umdjj4GJr6dXFj+CrZ74EK30jY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.135.206.173 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:57:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7X46ziYVM1mm8drT3wnxwPTwEbvp4Q.uC0I86U5KC1chbLn.vROBkcpi4CCxn_As_soqqTmZH7h7tMFTMplRpD7yV3IUaobYTWWFT5aavzmXfu4PmTkxJT4YGU1xC3bDNVrvriYLnQtZdU_jiv3vJfIU3jh_ZzMwO1PfAF3AOMuqaAVXgfDc6vaMMynL X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <01eb01c9832c$74945e50$a402a8c0@Inspiron><20090131111012.i80joik1ztc0wggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><000f01c983b5$cfe04330$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><20090131200626.39efb3dc@lurcher><071798B2D2F8408E9570FC11F569524C@AGB><27CD4CCC51DF4FEBB3972EA48A91D068@AGB><20090204223221.yd4hyv5n06ko8c44@webmail4.kuleuven.be><20090204232519.zgxyis76wx0kk8ck@webmail4.kuleuven.be><8D12605601E74486B002F1EF1D6B263C@AGB><20090205212652.29796780@lurcher> <20090205213158.32fbd1da@lurcher> <6B3A5CCB0A524F06A0739EC58BDE29A0@AGB> In-Reply-To: <6B3A5CCB0A524F06A0739EC58BDE29A0@AGB> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:57:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Fldig Flarq mfsk16 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group, Thanks for the QSOs this evening... It seems MFSK16 works quite well in the presence of QRN, which is quite strong here tonight. There is always MFSK8 and MFSK4 to try as well. The Flarq ARQ mode was quite interesting, although probably not what you want for a "traditional" QSO. I imagine it could work quite well when you actually want to transmit quite a large amount of text over a period of time, rather than "ur 599 wx not vy gud" etc. I set the packet length to 16, the smallest possible, with the idea of maximising the chances of receiving un-corrupted packets under weak signal conditions, at the expense of increased ARQ overheads. Timing out seems to be a problem; there are options to configure number of retries and timeout period, which it would probably be sensible to set to more than the default 5 retries / 60s timeout due to the nature of the QSB on 500kHz. Also, there does not seem to be a way of forcing a disconnection if you lose contact with the other station - I think this was causing trouble when I was trying to "connect" G4WGT after G0NBD had timed out. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU