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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: This could be 'very' useful ! especially if it's possible to intercept the signal 'before' the up convertor , ie , direct mode for LF_HF , will have to wait and see what the SDR programmers make of it first . [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.0 MANY_SPAN_IN_TEXT Many tags embedded within text X-Scan-Signature: e7c02b6e85723bae4746298f7f529717 Subject: LF: Ultra Cheap TX Dongle Found ! ( I think) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01CE88C4.E3718BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1109 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01CE88C4.E3718BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This could be 'very' useful ! especially if it's possible to = intercept the signal 'before' the up convertor , ie , direct = mode for LF_HF , will have to wait and see what the SDR = programmers make of it first . 73 -G.. =20 =20 In a email exchange with Mike Chen, , I asked if the device could = support other 'data' modes or analogue transmissions , to which, = the support engineer stated :- =20 ''As a transceiver, it's neutral about what is carried in the payload. = It depends on what the user injects into the transmitter, and how the = receiver interprets the received data.'' =20 Which, to me looks like the dongle is the 'ultra cheap TX' that = everyone is looking for .. I assume some form of interface driver = will be needed ? =20 Over to the programmers at this point =20 =20 =20 Reply from tech-support =20 =20 =20 Hi, =20 It supports only DVB-T modulation. Next Generation will support ISDB-T = as well. AM/FM/SSB is not in our support list. =20 However, the channel can carry any type of digital data, including = video/audio streaming, digital services (like EPG/MHEG/MHP), IP = streaming,.... =20 As a transceiver, it's neutral about what is carried in the payload. It = depends on what the user injects into the transmitter, and how the = receiver interprets the received data. =20 =20 http://www.hides.com.tw/index_eng.html =20 Mike Chen ( owner ?) =20 mike@hides.com.tw =20 =20 support@hides.com.tw =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01CE88C4.E3718BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This could be 'very' useful ! = especially =20 if it's possible to intercept the =20 signal 'before' the up convertor , ie ,=20 direct mode for LF_HF , will have = to wait and see what the SDR =20 programmers make of it first .

73 -G..

In a=20 email exchange with Mike = Chen, , I=20 asked if the device could support other =91data=92 modes or =20 analogue transmissions = ,=20 to which, the support engineer stated=20 :-

=91=92As a transceiver, it's neutral = about what is=20 carried in the payload. It depends on what the user injects into the=20 transmitter, and how the receiver interprets the received=20 data.=92=92

Which, to me looks like the dongle is the =91ultra cheap TX=92 that everyone is =20 looking for .. I = assume some=20 form of interface driver = will be =20 needed ?

Over=20 to the programmers = at this point

Reply from tech-support=20

Hi,

It=20 supports only DVB-T modulation. Next Generation will support ISDB-T as=20 well.

AM/FM/SSB is not in our support=20 list.

However, the channel can carry any type of digital = data,=20 including video/audio streaming, digital services (like=20 EPG/MHEG/MHP), IP=20 streaming,....

As a=20 transceiver, it's neutral about what is carried in the payload. It = depends on=20 what the user injects into the transmitter, and how the receiver = interprets the=20 received data.

http://www.hides.com.tw/index_eng.html

Mike=20 Chen ( owner=20 ?)

mike@hides.com.tw

support@hides.com.tw

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