Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t8SEj50o003910 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:45:05 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZgZcS-0005WE-EJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:41:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZgZcR-0005W5-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:41:31 +0100 Received: from smtpout5.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.80] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgZbN-00027f-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:41:30 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.80.163]) by mwinf5d69 with ME id Neg61r00m3XR26P03eg6Q8; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:40:10 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:40:10 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.80.163 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <594D40BEA07C4F5E8DB5A9A1D09246A5@AGB><579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B1EE03F@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:40:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 0a6a718c6fdbae2c30b178e413f97622 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB1489.0 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01D0FA03.F3416720" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4182 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01D0FA03.F3416720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Audacity of it , in board daylight as well=20 These are all well above the Dynamic switch over level , Q question = for the propagation dep't , what's changed ? local decode levels still -5/-6 dB , but that path is upto 6 dB = less attenuation [ opera > dynamic s/n still average and same = calibration] 73-G, 14:32 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -28 dB F:11% in MONTBRIO 1482.9 Hz 14:20 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -27 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.7 Hz 14:08 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -29 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.9 Hz 13:56 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 186 mi -28 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.4 Hz 13:56 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 4 mi -6 dB F:14% in Albir 1479,5 Hz 12:44 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:9% in Albir 1479,5 Hz 12:44 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -30 dB F:13% in MONTBRIO 1482.7 Hz From: Iban Cardona=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 1:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 = dB1489.0 Hz Hi, Graham=20 copying to G6AVK too, with nice signals 23:05 477 G6AVK Op8 1503.9 Hz -25 dB Fade: 2% I attach a pict from my grabber where can see EA5DOM and G6AVK at the = same time 73! Iban eb3frn On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Graham wrote: True Luis , just like just like VW 'crazy' code :- ) Good signals in the night to EB3FRM ! 73-G, EA5DOM de SWL-EB3FRN (Spain): Op8 F:25% -28 dB in MONTBRIO 1489.0 Hz EA5DOM de SWL-EB3FRN (Spain): Op8 F:12% -32 dB in MONTBRIO 1488.5 Hz From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez=20 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 = dB1489.0 Hz You catched me Graham ! ;-) Running the horizontal loop again. Better matching to the PA than = before, but only 8W now I have continued Txing WSPR and Opera8 during daylight hours. Nothing = on WSPR-2 at EB3FRN but Opera is decodable at Deep Search. Turned on my monitor to confirm = the spots and then the Deep Search spots marked as "??" go without question marks 12:59 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -34 dB in MONTBRIO = 1488.8 Hz 12:58 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:13% in Albir 12:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -36 dB in MONTBRIO = 1488.8 Hz 12:23 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -36 dB in MONTBRIO = 1488.8 Hz 11:59 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -35 dB in MONTBRIO = 1488.8 Hz Big difference over WSPR-2 and even taking in consideration the higer = QRM at EB3FRN during daylight hours 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: s=C3=A1bado, 26 de septiembre de 2015 1:40 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: LF: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB1489.0 Hz Jump in Opera activity to day , with excellent conditions on 14 = MHz UK/EU<>VK =20 LF/MF - Note the PSK map ONLY shows opera data decodes , Dynamic = spots are routed via the Opera APP=20 Good demonstration of running a local ' Rx on LF and MF by EA5DOM , = only reaching EB3FRN in Dynamic , but validated by the local off air = time stamp and recovered average frequency , within 200 mHz , -36 dB is = about the lower limit for op8D 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB1489.0 Hz 23:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir 23:23 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB in1488.8 Hz 23:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir 23:11 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB in MONTBRIO 1488.8 = Hz 23:10 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:2% in Albir Dynamic spots not showing=20 21:24 136 RN3AGC de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search -42 dB in Welwyn 1535.8 = Hz 20:42 136 G3XDV de EW6BN Op32 Deep Search 1204 mi -42 dB=20 20:37 136 IZ7SLZ de SV8RV-4 Op32 Deep Search -41 dB=20 20:37 136 IZ7SLZ de G4WGT Op32 Deep Search -42 dB=20 20:37 136 IZ7SLZ de SV8RV-1 Op32 Deep Search -42 d 73-G, ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01D0FA03.F3416720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Audacity  of it , in board daylight   as well
 
These are all  well  above the  Dynamic switch over = level ,=20 Q question  for the  propagation dep't  , what's =20 changed ?
local decode  levels  still  -5/-6 dB  , but = that =20 path is  upto  6 dB  less attenuation [ opera > = dynamic =20 s/n still  average  and  same calibration]
 
73-G,

14:32 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -28 dB F:11% in MONTBRIO 1482.9=20 Hz

14:20 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -27 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.7=20 Hz

14:08 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -29 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.9=20 Hz

13:56 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 186 mi -28 dB F:8% in MONTBRIO 1482.4 = Hz

13:56 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 4 mi -6 dB F:14% in Albir 1479,5=20 Hz

12:44 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:9% in Albir 1479,5 Hz

12:44 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 -30 dB F:13% in MONTBRIO 1482.7=20 Hz


From: Iban Cardona
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 1:08 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep = Search -36=20 dB1489.0 Hz

Hi, Graham=20

copying to G6AVK too, with nice signals

23:05    477 G6AVK Op8 1503.9 Hz -25 dB Fade: = 2%

I attach a pict from my grabber where can see EA5DOM and G6AVK at = the same=20 time


73! Iban
eb3frn



On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
True Luis  , just like  just like  VW 'crazy' = code  :- )
 
 Good signals  in the  night  to  EB3FRM = !
 
73-G,

EA5DOM de SWL-EB3FRN (Spain): Op8 F:25% -28 dB in = MONTBRIO 1489.0=20 Hz

EA5DOM de SWL-EB3FRN (Spain): Op8 F:12% -32 dB in = MONTBRIO 1488.5=20 Hz

 

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep = Search -36=20 dB1489.0 Hz

You catched me Graham ! ;-)

Running the horizontal loop again. Better matching to the PA than = before,=20 but only 8W now

I have continued Txing WSPR and Opera8 during daylight hours. = Nothing on=20 WSPR-2 at EB3FRN
but Opera is decodable at Deep Search. Turned on my monitor to = confirm=20 the spots and then
the Deep Search spots marked as "??" go without question = marks

12:59    477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -34 dB in = MONTBRIO 1488.8 Hz
12:58    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:13% in = Albir
12:35    477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -36 dB = in=20 MONTBRIO 1488.8 Hz
12:23    477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -36 dB = in=20 MONTBRIO 1488.8 Hz
11:59    477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search ?? -35 dB = in=20 MONTBRIO 1488.8 Hz

Big difference over WSPR-2 and even taking in consideration the = higer QRM=20 at EB3FRN
during daylight hours

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de = Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: = s=C3=A1bado, 26 de=20 septiembre de 2015 1:40
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: = 23:35 477=20 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB1489.0 Hz

Jump=20 in Opera activity to  day ,  with excellent conditions on =   14=20 MHz  UK/EU<>VK  


LF/MF - Note the =  PSK map=20  ONLY shows  opera  data  decodes , Dynamic spots = are=20  routed via the  Opera APP 


Good=20 demonstration of running a local ' Rx  on LF and MF  by = EA5DOM ,=20 only reaching EB3FRN in Dynamic , but validated by the local off air = time=20 stamp and recovered average frequency , within 200 mHz , -36 dB is = about the=20  lower limit for  op8D


23:35=20    477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB1489.0 Hz

23:34=20    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir

23:23 477 EA5DOM de = EB3FRN Op8=20 Deep Search -36 dB in1488.8 Hz

23:22=20 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir
23:11 477 EA5DOM = de=20 EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search -36 dB in MONTBRIO 1488.8 Hz
23:10 477 = EA5DOM=20 de EA5DOM-1 Op8 -5 dB F:2% in Albir


Dynamic=20 spots not  showing 


21:24=20    136 RN3AGC de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search -42 dB in Welwyn = 1535.8=20 Hz

20:42=20    136 G3XDV de EW6BN Op32 Deep Search 1204 mi -42=20 dB 

20:37=20    136 IZ7SLZ de SV8RV-4 Op32 Deep Search -41 dB 

20:37=20    136 IZ7SLZ de G4WGT Op32 Deep Search -42 dB 

20:37=20    136 IZ7SLZ de SV8RV-1 Op32 Deep Search -42 d

 

73-G,


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