Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B4E12380000E5; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qntxb-0002T9-El for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:59:15 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qntxa-0002T0-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:59:14 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QntxY-0002NZ-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:59:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF88770000A0 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:59:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A2DC770000AA for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:59:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [2.26.29.10]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 49E4270000A0 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:59:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20110801145904302.49E4270000A0@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4E355332.6010107@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E355927.4010905@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E355CF9.8020504@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <101744BA6E9F4F649EF3AA71661C8397@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <101744BA6E9F4F649EF3AA71661C8397@JimPC> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:59:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110801-0, 01/08/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: frequency doubler and divider Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:413922976:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1464e36bf7d2f60 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Complimentary my dear Watson ...... hi G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:48 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: frequency doubler and divider > > Dear Graham, Stefan, LF Group, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > > >>Has anyone looked closely at Jim's Class D/E EER tx ? > > Well, Jim has ;-) All that is used is a limiting amplifier to "square up" > the input sine wave. For a push-pull PA, anti-phase square wave gate drive > is obtained simply using an inverter. There is no requirement to multiply > or divide the frequency. To obtain a 50% duty cycle square wave, the > limiting thresholds need to be symmetrical around the average value of the > input waveform. In the EER transverter, I used a transistor differential > pair to provide a well-defined symmetrical limited waveform. The output of > the differential amp is fed through some CMOS gates to increase the gain > and make the output "square-er". You could use a voltage comparator > instead, but it has to be a fairly fast one to avoid significant asymmetry > in the output waveform due to differences in rise/rall times with positive > and negative going signals, and other effects. > > This works fine provided your signal source generates a symmetrical > waveform, i.e. the wanted signal frequency with or without odd order > harmonics, such as a sine wave or a square wave. If the waveform is > asymmetrical (containing substantial levels of even-order harmonics), such > as a rectangular waveform with non-50% duty cycle, or contains > non-harmonic components (e.g. unwanted mixing products), then a bandpass > filter is needed to remove the unwanted components. But most practical > signal generation schemes do not contain very high levels of unwanted > frequency components close to the signal frequency, so a simple single LC > tuned circuit with low Q is an adequate bandpass filter. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > >