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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Paul I normally work simplex when replying to a CQ call. Your signal was visible for quite some time even after the QSO, we probably could have worked on FT8 or QRSS 3 as well. My best DX wspr r [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.135.70 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE No description available. -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d7fcd9b75df8d1b09ddef9df028bd9ae Subject: Re: LF: Recent N1BUG 630m operation Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Paul I normally work simplex when replying to a CQ call. Your signal was visible for quite some time even after the QSO, we probably could have worked on FT8 or QRSS 3 as well. My best DX wspr report last night was from VE6JY/6496 Km. Some times duplex working is better especially if a lot of stations all reply to a CQ at once on the same QRG, it is better if they are spaced out, it gives the weak stations a chance to be seen and decoded. I had reports last night on wspr from 13 NA stations plus many EU stns, propagation was good on MF Tnx for the QSO and hpe we can do it again 73 de MAL/G3KEV -----Original Message----- From: N1BUG Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 1:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk ; Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands ; 600MRG@mailman.qth.net Subject: LF: Recent N1BUG 630m operation I spent the last 6 nights making QSOs on 630 meters. While it has been interesting and at times fun, it has also been very frustrating. Many QSO opportunities were lost due to people calling split. WHY? Perhaps it can be a useful technique for some, but most callers far removed from my frequency end up buried in RFI and in some cases mingled with another QSO attempt. Most of the band is badly trashed by RFI here, but I almost always have one or two nice clean slots of 40 to 80 Hz width. When calling CQ I try to get as close as I can to the center of a clean area, hoping people will take the hint and call on or near my frequency. Many don't. According to third party reports I had many callers whom I never had a chance to decode because of this. I did work 5 new states bringing my total to 22. I only made one DX QSO with G3KEV. Thanks Mal for using good sense and calling me simplex! Last night I returned to the shack after a break to see several CQ sequences from LA2XPA with SNR to -23 dB. It appeared he had stopped, so I called CQ and almost immediately received a call from LA2XPA. Unfortunately QSB set in and though I could see him on the waterfall for two periods after that, nothing decoded. He was calling split and ended up uncomfortably close to a strong U.S. station who was attempting to complete a QSO. I continued for nearly 3 hours hoping he would try to call me again, but despite his station giving me reports (via hamspots and PSK Reporter) up to -8 I never saw him call again. I am very sorry to have lost this QSO. I am returning to 2200 meters now. I can change bands somewhat easier than last year but it still requires nasty fiddling with wires and coax outside in the cold and snow. I will make a 630m appearance from time to time. 73, Paul N1BUG FN55mf