Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.70]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-8bc34ddbf47d40; Tue, 24 May 2011 14:10:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id ABB2638000095; Tue, 24 May 2011 14:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QOw2G-0003Cd-9o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 19:08:52 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QOw2F-0003CU-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 19:08:51 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QOw2E-00016x-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 19:08:51 +0100 Received: from cpbrm-ews03.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.134]) by cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 May 2011 20:08:44 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpbrm-ews03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 May 2011 20:08:44 +0200 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Tue, 24 May 2011 20:08:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: "henny van elst" To: References: <44EC48C103E94C22B66819D342CB4A1B@ns94d01ae4d850> <4DDBB4E0.1080509@dsl.pipex.com> <4DDBC695.5090303@talktalk.net> <4DDBE8AE.9060406@talktalk.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:07:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2011 18:08:43.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E604BE0:01CC1A3D] X-RcptDomain: blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CC1A4E.44CAE2A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1464ddbf47674cf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CC1A4E.44CAE2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i see the same Eddie, henny pa3cpm Gl ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Hi Henny Do you see shifts other than these. =20 80.8 =3D Tone 01 - Space 81.0 =3D Tone 02=20 81.2 =3D Tone 03=20 81.4 =3D Tone 04=20 81.6 =3D Tone 05=20 81.8 =3D Tone 06=20 82.0 =3D Tone 07 - Idle 82.2 =3D Tone 08 82.4 =3D Tone 09=20 82.6 =3D Tone 10=20 82.8 =3D Tone 11=20 83.0 =3D Tone 12=20 This is the way I label the system Chris and I can swap message data= easily using this your message was 9,11,12 Space 9,11,12. All tones= are high. Above the Idle tone. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 24/05/2011 17:53, henny van elst wrote:=20 Hi Eddie,Chris, the high tones,that is what I means with the wrong shift, henny pa3cpm 73's ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:54 PM Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Hi Chris/Henny/LF I shall never get started on the job I wanted to do today so I= have re-joined the ZEVS monitors. The inter sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd= due to the message using all high tones like the one today. These occ= urrences are not unknown but rare-er. Just a thought the Alpha beacons are off again, maybe a little= more comms is necessary. Without going into my theory of navigation= beacon denial, oh I have said it. If they can turn the navigation off= for long periods lately and carry on without them, why do they bother= to use them at all. Oh got it, maybe they have the Captains XYL on board and she is= doing the navigating. 73 Eddie G3ZJO =20 On 24/05/2011 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote:=20 Hi Henny - the time is certainly different but the format look= s the same to me: 82 Hz for four minutes to start, followed by three= 4 minute tones of 82.4, 82.8 and 83. These three 'message' tones are= then always (for recent transmissions) followed by 4 minutes at 80.8= - then the three tones are repeated and the signal goes back to 82 Hz= for an hour. Eddie G3ZJO has identified that signals seem to made up from= 12 tones from 80.8 to 83.0 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the first and= last is always 82Hz and the mid-tone is always 80.8. The three 'messa= ge' tones are repeated.=20 Will be interesting to see if the 1700UTC transmission is stil= l on schedule.=20 73 Chris G3WCD =20 On 24/05/2011 14:08, henny van elst wrote:=20 Hi LF, Zevs transmitting on a strange time,and the shift is strange= too, henny pa3cpm 73's Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen= worden verzonden: Zevs 24-05.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging= tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlag= en niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als= u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 10.0.1321 / Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgift= e: 05/23/11 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. 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i see the  same Eddie,
henny pa3cpm
Gl
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 qrss<= /A>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011= 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wrong time= Zevs=20 24-05.jpg

Hi Henny

Do you see shifts other than=20 these.
 

80.8 =3D  Tone 01 - Space
81.0 =3D&n= bsp; Tone 02=20
81.2 =3D  Tone 03
81.4 =3D  Tone 04
81.6 =3D&n= bsp; Tone 05=20
81.8 =3D  Tone 06
82.0 =3D  Tone 07 - Idle
82.2= =3D  Tone=20 08
82.4 =3D  Tone 09
82.6 =3D  Tone 10
82.8 =3D=   Tone 11=20
83.0 =3D  Tone 12

This is the way I label the syste= m Chris and=20 I can swap message data easily using this your message was 9,11,12= Space=20 9,11,12. All tones are high. Above the Idle tone.

73 Eddie=20 G3ZJO

On 24/05/2011 17:53, henny van elst wrote:=20
Hi Eddie,Chris,
the high tones,that is what&= nbsp; I=20 means with the wrong shift,
henny pa3cpm
73's
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 qrss
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 20= 11 4:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wrong ti= me Zevs=20 24-05.jpg

Hi Chris/Henny/LF

I shall never get starte= d on the=20 job I wanted to do today so I have re-joined the ZEVS monitors.<= BR>
The=20 inter sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd due= to the=20 message using all high tones like the one today. These occurrenc= es are not=20 unknown but rare-er.

Just a thought the Alpha beacons are= off=20 again, maybe a little more comms is necessary. Without going int= o my=20 theory of navigation beacon denial, oh I have said it. If they= can turn=20 the navigation off for long periods lately and carry on without= them, why=20 do they bother to use them at all.

Oh got it, maybe they= have the=20 Captains XYL on board and she is doing the navigating.

73= Eddie=20 G3ZJO 


On 24/05/2011 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote:= =20
Hi Henny=20 - the time is certainly different but the format looks the sam= e to me:=20 82 Hz for four minutes to start, followed by three 4 minute to= nes of=20 82.4, 82.8 and 83. These three 'message' tones are then always= (for=20 recent transmissions) followed by 4 minutes at 80.8 - then the= three=20 tones are repeated and the signal goes back to 82 Hz for an=20 hour.

Eddie G3ZJO has identified that signals seem to= made up=20 from 12 tones from 80.8 to 83.0 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the= first and=20 last is always 82Hz and the mid-tone is always 80.8. The three= 'message'=20 tones are repeated.

Will be interesting to see if the= 1700UTC=20 transmission is still on schedule.

73 Chris G3WCD = ;=20


On 24/05/2011 14:08, henny van elst wrote:=20
Hi LF,
Zevs transmitting on a stra= nge time,and=20 the shift is strange too,
henny pa3cpm
73's
Het berich= t kan nu met=20 het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
Ze= vs=20 24-05.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan= ter=20 beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van be= paalde=20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstell= ingen voor=20 uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden=20 afgehandeld.


Geen virus gev= onden in dit=20 bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 10.0.1= 321 /=20 Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte:=20 05/23/11


Geen virus gevonde= n in dit=20 bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 10.0.1321 /=20 Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte:=20 05/23/11

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