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[77.248.65.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s3sm44441232eem.4.2013.03.06.13.30.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: From: Minto Witteveen To: References: <51378EC1.5030309@psk31.plus.com> <5137970B.6060600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <5137B214.8070608@kpnmail.nl> In-Reply-To: <5137B214.8070608@kpnmail.nl> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I decode SM6BHZ on 478.165, 45.45 Hz 170 Hz shift.. DE SM6BHZ SM6BHZ JO57WQ GOTENBURG SWEDEN SM6BHZ SM6BHZ K ISRYN ZI TTZEAE A 73's Minto pa3bca [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [74.125.83.54 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (minto.witteveen[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 0317e2ac8ed27149e57223a21580246d Subject: LF: Re: RTTY 478.xxx Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mk01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61855137c2993af6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none I decode SM6BHZ on 478.165, 45.45 Hz 170 Hz shift.. DE SM6BHZ SM6BHZ JO57WQ GOTENBURG SWEDEN SM6BHZ SM6BHZ K ISRYN ZI TTZEAE A 73's Minto pa3bca -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse -----Original Message----- From: pa3abk Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 22:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RTTY 478.xxx Thanks Eddie for the report. Didn't expect to be that errorfree over 400km :-) AMTOR-FEC speed is 100Bd, every character is send twice within a certain interval. There is also a checksum on every 7-unit character send which should have a ratio of 3:4. The ARQ version is even better, later software was developed in such that every repeat was overlayed on top of the previous one. So even under bad condx 3 or 4 repeats gives an errorfree print. Assume that the shift of 85Hz can't be maintained in order to receive it "error free" considering the higher baudrate. But it's worth trying it out. At the mom 478.2 is somewhat stereophonic, many signals but can't decode any. Jan/pa3abk NNNN On 6-3-2013 20:20, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > Hello Eddie, > > Yes, very interesting. Jan/PA3ABK told me that AMTOR-FEC is the same as > NAVTEX. A quick google search and wikipedia check confirmed that :-) > NAVTEX is available in FLDIGI as well, which is fine :-) > I also installed Multipsk now and managed to decode my RTTY (from Twente) > even with that program. > > Now i would like to try NAVTEX. Will change to that mode now... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 06.03.2013 19:45, schrieb g3zjo: >> Hi LF >> >> I am continuing to test RTTY below 478.200 reports very welcome. >> >> PA3ABK came up very nicely in QSO with DK7FC. >> >> 73 Eddie G3ZJO > > -- pa3abk <-> dordrecht jo21it