Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7807A3800008B; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rj96K-0003rZ-0a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:40:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rj96J-0003rO-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:40:51 +0000 Received: from nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj96H-0005P1-CR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:40:51 +0000 Received: from [212.82.108.229] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2012 12:40:43 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.224] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2012 12:40:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2012 12:40:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 355930.47732.bm@omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13268 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2012 12:40:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=kyzcZpgBMvmR8748nw77Yov+3pRc6QFYaOy5kbY1a+i8AnVrrJMrzjCP0PvTAtJPAOKZTPkmvbKqIotjwFMC019k/0A/tEeLAHxcZLgrARzzvcmJwcVdEhoFNi2ZA2OViO6R+hP8/DqfidlwJJpq+P51j1virCQ2IqrIqHOw7qI= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1325853643; bh=V5tm7nzM5u77iuPhQjawtv/pst/UwKU9/k3cwxUYOAE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=0pWKKV0c2Xr54hmsoJ+Bs7puNFu5ojMSD+PpOOEr+8ME1hU8C3f1uYANBnCcLwYgy+Dyb3N4UJ4bQfoO+rzT/fYNxM7Ep3BeM6rZzkapPIwWmxweZ94DPW5SGhiFGCXvMfuH60w4g0PC/A+Fp9574W3HBiEtLW4y9k2e0pRb9UE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: uWij1gUVM1ngT.FwLB7j5fMIqBbQxtIDSk6E_kpdW6JRkZ9 kE2_3ryaKk6mIYN8oA_Rp89iH_MplBl16txmIN3U7UbMv663eFbWjn1Gpgia tVyjyyPfmqvjg6iph5r5Qt2PClN6uI6QO0lVyj1L2WCA3jYNn5SDxK0VU5Xl vHeUSvDhoZQURfBkfwRgyBVF_QBrchYez.AisL8oAqLDgsShWpRt8zV.ieTi .EeDtrfo72YTuJdqglEec0c9Qi0zTJq9xiv2taiGCgwxKxVgsUIx1ITAgxP9 9_JoV9PTiKeb1Km.UsTkOWZbOkUhhOytIh8biDe3iSvP.p60STt08xo0dgzn tzRL6QfYXaRe.NUvSrGKfZeMaeL30u5kmxW_2xqnIYz6KOmC7VBrbYujrB4. 0P3iqAeBHqQmsi5ym3iCh37rHvA4IYP3Br177RD5WF5QRWSeeJIfTvfem31R RrFB8O0IL X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.183.217.52 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jan 2012 12:40:43 +0000 GMT Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <008301ccc97c$51d9fcf0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>, ,<003501ccca06$6bdef490$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4F02F9EA.1090101@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <004601ccca20$8aa7d1c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00fc01ccca65$47277e60$1502a8c0@Clemens04> <00d901ccca69$1f897260$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <024c01cccad1$3c099ba0$1502a8c0@Clemens04> <001901cccad5$bff43840$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <017301cccb22$75f61590$1502a8c0@Clemens04> <8E87C709471544DAB8BEACCCBC282F74@JimPC> <012501cccc5f$543fd290$1502a8c0@Clemens04> In-Reply-To: <012501cccc5f$543fd290$1502a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:41:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: ITU-R "Radio noise" document P.372-10, Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:414836512:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m005.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4f06f1702df2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Clemens, LF Group, > Good morning Jim, > > I've always been looking for that ITU-R Radio Noise document > but nothing found in the www so far. I am replying to the group, since others may also be interested... Recently, I was rather pleased to find all the ITU recommendations can be downloaded free, directly from the ITU web site. Previously, you had to hand over a significant number of Swiss Francs to read them! If you go to: http://www.itu.int/pub/R-REC and scroll down to "individual reccomendations", there are several lists under different subject headings. The Radio Noise document is under P - Radiowave Propagation, along with other interesting things for LF amateurs such as P.368 containing ground wave loss data. It is worth browsing the other lists also - there is a lot of interesting data from professional sources here, covering ELF to optical frequencies. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU