Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1EDB838000340; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 06:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Twt7u-0008G2-3n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:31:50 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Twt7t-0008Ft-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:31:49 +0000 Received: from nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.230]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Twt7p-000834-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:31:48 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.196] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 11:31:24 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.236] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 11:31:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 11:31:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1358681484; bh=wGjTHgJii/ik7UWeyrHC92TRJMtpuAvphQ3qx+5iUng=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=3pfh5XdfdNZoH8JgVYnO+W1NnMQ6LKq/XejiWQC7sUytWPwfK6tTQSv9iZ+DEYarwpUiN58v4J56F3jxb5hfizeAStybxu6RsR/+PoHdmnhVfkLKX4/QKGJe2tDXhMrVKY9dWcxOXOZl8cRU8TRIMTw8PgT3jy8a2Z0RVwO5jCA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 690567.55576.bm@smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: CiBaWXIVM1nZTeXDW7rz5GX9Vo876gt9b5F2AOjR2FQcHCD wpbiqjVDKlRaIZH2EO2VcNF5gI08ucjAZvAKmdEwG._dBtswIAfGA0bj_CgE ePSo6pr8.Gh07iAxLTVNSJGaJfKQxO4n.RSgtYWjUqCw_SLCT32ndUqxr43n ukm9TKr6_PoCezgj1s9okMTMATqQKzD1DIrf.BleDoaCwi7m9J1gvDTGjS63 RytD_eP39mMIU1cnU66dQ_k0b.QUFUXP6ukc6szTm7ADtqXTuIOdYTojVL4Q EJ8exoyqkn.w0Ur4KiMWkLYAMAYRgvL4kwfCvQ9FH7B4d67iWEkUj54.HP0W hYq3vn22dE92RwUzbla25b.N7l9Y0SLBA6kk6Q_6tQQCGtsnctyawILqJXKV S6gGq3joQzNwC6hUVOi8xNQEUvddOHE_RJjwCJyi50cMlbuX1d9VXhepDjYm 9Kf_qcv0JDo8xFKZ_w._nE8AD7aVIZnG5NAIutEJASD.x8RvfmLo4kUPKreJ wNE2gSIy0zLP6Po2dnVGHVvZWZ2f1On1Izb3owX1DZhZ6TXEXSXPYYY_mGnu ck21ho9JKFYcyIYJnmkH_kDMC1qxVP1hSWx06ImGrDKt.ONj1XnMFAksaAp2 aPJD2XIJlqxF7Z_Ro.4TDBNO3Vc4rpuBsy2FkAffFtYT.VnX5m0uZtOeMhlx .tuenS356zJCWtaP3OvuvSpwJfo2jLvu23KtfCCmfmg2A5TuazBivw_15AU0 TvA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- Received: from gnat (alan.melia@86.146.154.26 with login) by smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2013 11:31:24 +0000 UTC Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <329CD7BA85284450A7818F58FF2FFFD9@AGB> <8B6FD916D7D249668D7431F2424819C2@gnat> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:24:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:19 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [217.146.182.230 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: 4a8faa6952847c1ec651f883b63fc053 Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CDF700.BE631E80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408f50fbd5ff336b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CDF700.BE631E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham :-))......I seem to remember the original keyer on GB3VHF was = a disc with pegs in which acted as cams closing a pair of contacts, with = the disc driven by a small synchronous motor. Alan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:19 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 Well nothing too serious , Marconi auto alarm -m had a machined = cam with the call sign machined round the edge ? I like the idea of a round train track , with the right foil = lengths could send Opera=20 A variation on the PIC =3D Paper Incremental Collator=20 From: Alan Melia=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 Except it is not a new design!! This how Samual envisaged that = messages would be sent! It only a little later that ops became adept at = hand forming of the codes and even later reading the inker clacks by = ear. Prob over 150 years too late :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: LF: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 This has potential for automation=20 Model railway in a loop track may be ?=20 G.. = http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2013/unusual_ham_radio_morse_send= er.htm?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+= AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UPsAM_JCd8E ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CDF700.BE631E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham :-))......I seem to remember = the original=20 keyer on GB3VHF was a disc with pegs in which acted as cams closing a = pair of=20 contacts, with the disc driven by a small synchronous = motor.
 
Alan
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 = 12:19=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: New = desigin of JTN=20 auto keyer

Well nothing  too  serious ,  Marconi   = auto=20 alarm -m had a  machined  cam with the  call  = sign =20 machined  round the  edge  ?
I like the  idea of a  round  train = track  ,=20 with the  right  foil  lengths   could  = send=20 Opera
 
A variation  on the PIC  =3D    = Paper =20 Incremental  Collator

From: Alan Melia
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer =

Except it is not a new design!! This = how Samual=20 envisaged that messages would be sent! It only a little later that ops = became=20 adept at hand forming of the codes and even later reading the inker = clacks by=20 ear. Prob over 150 years too late :-))
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, January 19, = 2013 8:48=20 PM
Subject: LF: New desigin of = JTN auto=20 keyer

This  has  potential for  automation
 
Model  railway in a loop track may  be  ?
 
G..
 
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