Delivered-To: daveyxm@virginmedia.com Received: by 10.50.57.9 with SMTP id e9csp73731igq; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.61.199 with SMTP id s7mr6031811lbr.53.1373048121140; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com. [195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c8si3448410lae.162.2013.07.05.11.15.20 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1UvAUu-0001BI-AE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 19:12:44 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1UvAUt-0001B9-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 19:12:43 +0100 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1UvAUs-0003xm-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 19:12:42 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.145.211.218]) by mwinf5d42 with ME id wiCe1l00a4jGl6f03iCe3k; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:12:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <51D498BD.3050007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <005b01ce798a$b0476600$6d01a8c0@DELL4> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:12:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Besides which, for a choke to actually work, it would need a reference point to work against , if the choke is at the end of a cable , then the whole assy will float , with any line voltage on the out side screen , could isolate from ground , but I don't see it isolating a floating termination ..? [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: f62c7cf8eeb8e5a327b71719e9bffff1 Subject: Re: LF: VK1OD's analysis of the MiniWhip antenna Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3117 Besides which, for a choke to actually work, it would need a reference point to work against , if the choke is at the end of a cable , then the whole assy will float , with any line voltage on the out side screen , could isolate from ground , but I don't see it isolating a floating termination ..? G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roelof Bakker" Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:47 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: VK1OD's analysis of the MiniWhip antenna > Hello Jay, > > > I don't think so. > > I have carried out a test with a vertical feed line and a horizontal feed > line on a pole pushed out an upstairs windows. In both cases the antenna > was in the same position and showed equal signal levels from the > groundwave of ONO-399.5 at 59 km. > > 73, > Roelof, pa0rdt >