Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj11.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-8ba84d38bfe03cf; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:06:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9E7B4380000A8; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pg3Z5-0001dU-8X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:05:15 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pg3Z4-0001dL-J1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:05:14 +0000 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pg3Z2-0008I0-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:05:14 +0000 Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p0KN4uo1008779 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:56 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbfb959.pool.mediaWays.net [77.191.185.89]) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 8D125E000084 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <003401cbb8b7$f82129c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <413650202.736292.1295540964589.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078> <005001cbb8cc$db1114c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:04:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9 (Alpha check) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBB8FE.D497E740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89b64d38bfde13bf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBB8FE.D497E740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A quick receive check is whether you can actually hear the most distan= t Alpha transmitter as well, ie. all three dashes on 11.905 kHz during= the evening.=20 Another test is whether you can occasionally see -40 dB modulation sid= ebands in a milliHz-resolution spectrogram. These appear irregularly= (often for a few hours around 6 UT), and are caused by phase alterati= ons on some of the Krasnodar dashes. This is probably some sort of cod= ed information, piggybacked on the navigation system. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9 Horst I likewise am getting around 30 dB sig above noise with a non resonant= antenna.With my 137 Khz array resonated on 9 Kcs the improvement is= at least 20 dB better, unfortunately there is so little Dreamers acty diverting the= system is not worth while. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Horst St=C3=B6cker=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9 I've got the Alpha with -60 dB and about 25-30dB over noise. Maybe= I'll soon catch the first "dreamer". I am still not sure if my configurations are allright now. But tryin= g some antenna locations around my house brought the best result at th= e postition I have fixed the MiniWhip now. I hope, it's good enough. Otherwise I will have to quit thinking abo= ut receiving at home. Horst ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Von: "mal hamilton" Gesendet: 20.01.2011 16:37:38 An: rsgb Betreff: LF: Dream 9 VLF I had some spare time today and checked VLF Alpha on 11905 minus= 65 dB and loud with 150 metres non resonant inv L. My rx has a 1 Khz bfo offset and on speclab the calibration looks= ok for normal acty but at QRS600 it might be a different story!! RX af is LSB/USB selectable at 3 Khz and 20 Hz No signals visible on 8.9 Khz, nice clean screen Anyon active ? de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBB8FE.D497E740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A quick receive check is whether= you can=20 actually hear the most distant Alpha transmitter a= s well,=20 ie. all three dashes on 11.905 kHz during the evening.
 
Another test is whether you can = occasionally=20 see -40 dB modulation sidebands in a milliHz-resolution spec= trogram.=20 These appear irregularly (often for a few hours around 6 UT)= ,=20 and are caused by phase alterations on some of the Kras= nodar=20 dashes. This is probably some sort of coded information, piggybac= ked on the=20 navigation system.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9
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Horst
I likewise am getting around 30 dB si= g above noise=20 with a non resonant antenna.With my 137 Khz array resonated on 9 Kcs= the=20 improvement is at least 20 dB
better, unfortunately there is so lit= tle Dreamers=20 acty diverting the system is not worth while.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 20,= 2011 4:29=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9
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I've got the=20 Alpha with -60 dB and about 25-30dB over noise. Maybe I'll soon catc= h the=20 first "dreamer".
I am still not sure if my configurations are all= right now.=20 But trying some antenna locations around my house brought the best= result at=20 the postition I have fixed the MiniWhip now.
I hope, it's good en= ough.=20 Otherwise I will have to quit thinking about receiving at=20 home.
Horst
Von: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Ges= endet:=20 20.01.2011 16:37:38
An: rsgb=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Betreff: LF: Dream= 9

VLF
I had= some spare=20 time today and checked VLF Alpha on 11905 minus 65 dB and loud wit= h 150=20 metres non resonant inv L.
My rx= has a 1 Khz=20 bfo offset and on speclab the calibration looks ok for normal acty= but at=20 QRS600 it might be a different story!!
RX af= is LSB/USB=20 selectable at 3 Khz and 20 Hz
No sig= nals visible=20 on 8.9 Khz, nice clean screen
Anyon= active=20 ?
de=20 mal/g3kev
 
  
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