Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.91]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC062-a9744ca22367267; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:18:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 04D17380001E8; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P0dnN-0006zf-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:16:49 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P0dnC-0006zW-KO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:16:38 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P0dnA-0005n1-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:16:40 +0100 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([207.6.55.167]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20100928171123.XJLJ6357.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:11:23 -0600 Received: from yourc44d19af4e (unknown [207.6.55.167]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7A3D0156AFC3E815 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 9.0.856 [271.1.1/3164]); Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:11:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jack" To: References: <4CA1EF7A.1000802@telus.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:11:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=f8VR6xZZ0qNRxEIM6OzxXLLodxZ5Ek/XjN40eXfWmec= c=1 sm=0 a=A7CIuoPq07wA:10 a=lTnsZSs9s7QA:10 a=wChDkGgNhM0Ehp01TiKlng==:17 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=A06HpNCPAAAA:20 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=27x5FU0RLU0sasOsk40A:9 a=VQ7qykwRQ9SQwL02VbQA:7 a=YOPytaIxeVeROfu_VDW6BV91K94A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=W8q8MYTU7W2CSOYcK00A:9 a=y_R_Pd_TPKBOiElvlcoA:7 a=3KlWF2niLYfpSdIZXlrTwVs1suUA:4 a=d-1ze5jHbJEA:10 a=8HFvfYO7JADzzmZa_NwA:9 a=h778PNRMzPPtuwG1P9wA:7 a=XDePb1QxLHkmV88FbPtKAgxWQEEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: JA/VE7 QSO Completed - FINALLY! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-42D91A2A=======" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605b4ca223651b72 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --=======AVGMAIL-42D91A2A======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0112_01CB5EF5.802DE140" ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01CB5EF5.802DE140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to you both, the tough part is over, it's only going= to get easier now. I'm sorry now I didn't stay up to watch and list= en to this historic event. 73, Jack - VA7JX On 28 September 2010 14:36, Scott Tilley wrote: Finally! After months of trying, our gear, conditions and most= of all our XYL's patience all worked together to produce a QSO! JA7NI (DFCW30) and VE7TIL (DFCW60) completed a trans-pacific QSO= on 2200m this morning a first between Canada and Japan. CN89dk to QM= 09fl is 7162km. Things started off with a surprise as NI copied TIL's beacon signa= l 30min before his sunrise. What followed was a 'quick' exchange of= calls and NI's report was received by TIL. Then a very long and deep= fade occurred. This happened before to us and we lost each other and= an entire nights sleep...! But that taught us a lesson and we adapte= d to the deep fading on this path by creating a master slave relations= hip between the stations and using QSK to full effect. Master slave= means the station that is expecting a reply simply waits until he hea= rs it while the other station transmits until heard with pauses (QSK)= to listen... NI waited patiently not knowing TIL had copied the cal= ls and his report. Our procedure was for him to simply wait until he= copied something... Three hours later RO appeared on NI's screen and= during one of my crawls out of the bunk I saw a dot during a pause in= transmission and stopped the transmitter. A few minutes later there= was an R and TU but not in DFCW but rather QRSS as a malfunction at= NI's end had him scrambling, but he recovered with grace and the QSO= was in the bag... This QSO caps off months of work by both operators in improving th= eir stations and beaconing on the path to learn its characteristics to= make a QSO possible. What is clear to me is the trans-pacific path= on 2200m is a very viable communication path for amateur experimentat= ion. I'm sure time will demonstrate this further as procedures and eq= uipment improve on both sides of the ocean. I would like to particularly thank Yas, JA8SCD (the Tokyo Grabber)= for his help and translation services. Without him this would have= been much more difficult. More details including station equipment to follow in the next few= days as I get caught up on my sleep and family life :-) 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3163 - Release Date: 09/2= 7/10 10:56:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01CB5EF5.802DE140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations to you both, the toug= h part is=20 over, it's only going to get easier now.   I'm sorry now I= didn't stay=20 up to watch and listen to this historic event.
 
73,
Jack - VA7JX
 
 


On 28 September 2010 14:36, Scott Tilley <sthed4= 75@telus.net> wrote:
 = Finally!=20  After months of trying, our gear, conditions and most of all= our XYL's=20 patience all worked together to produce a QSO!

JA7NI (DFCW3= 0) and=20 VE7TIL (DFCW60) completed a trans-pacific QSO on 2200m this mornin= g a first=20 between Canada and Japan.  CN89dk to QM09fl is 7162km.
Things=20 started off with a surprise as NI copied TIL's beacon signal 30min= before=20 his sunrise.  What followed was a 'quick' exchange of calls= and NI's=20 report was received by TIL.  Then a very long and deep fade= occurred.=20  This happened before to us and we lost each other and an ent= ire nights=20 sleep...!  But that taught us a lesson and we adapted to the= deep=20 fading on this path by creating a master slave relationship betwee= n the=20 stations and using QSK to full effect.  Master slave means th= e station=20 that is expecting a reply simply waits until he hears it while the= other=20 station transmits until heard with pauses (QSK) to listen...  = ; NI=20 waited patiently not knowing TIL had copied the calls and his repo= rt.=20  Our procedure was for him to simply wait until he copied som= ething...=20  Three hours later RO appeared on NI's screen and during one= of my=20 crawls out of the bunk I saw a dot during a pause in transmission= and=20 stopped the transmitter.  A few minutes later there was an R= and TU but=20 not in DFCW but rather QRSS as a malfunction at NI's end had him= scrambling,=20 but he recovered with grace and the QSO was in the bag...

T= his QSO=20 caps off months of work by both operators in improving their stati= ons and=20 beaconing on the path to learn its characteristics to make a QSO= possible.=20  What is clear to me is the trans-pacific path on 2200m is a= very=20 viable communication path for amateur experimentation.  I'm= sure time=20 will demonstrate this further as procedures and equipment improve= on both=20 sides of the ocean.

I would like to particularly thank Yas,= JA8SCD=20 (the Tokyo Grabber) for his help and translation services.  W= ithout him=20 this would have been much more difficult.

More details incl= uding=20 station equipment to follow in the next few days as I get caught= up on my=20 sleep and family life :-)

73 Scott
VE7TIL CN89dk
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/


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