Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8b7e4ddbe300f1; Tue, 24 May 2011 12:55:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4D9D738000084; Tue, 24 May 2011 12:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QOurw-0002jd-V7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 17:54:08 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QOurw-0002jU-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 17:54:08 +0100 Received: from cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QOurv-0000RP-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 17:54:08 +0100 Received: from cpbrm-ews07.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.138]) by cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 May 2011 18:54:01 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-cmt107.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.23]) by cpbrm-ews07.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 May 2011 18:54:01 +0200 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-cmt107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Tue, 24 May 2011 18:54:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: "henny van elst" To: References: <44EC48C103E94C22B66819D342CB4A1B@ns94d01ae4d850> <4DDBB4E0.1080509@dsl.pipex.com> <4DDBC695.5090303@talktalk.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:53:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2011 16:54:00.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E541B60:01CC1A33] X-RcptDomain: blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CC1A43.D510A2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4ddbe2f33ead X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CC1A43.D510A2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eddie,Chris, the high tones,that is what I means with the wrong shift, henny pa3cpm 73's ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:54 PM Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Hi Chris/Henny/LF I shall never get started on the job I wanted to do today so I have= re-joined the ZEVS monitors. The inter sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd due= to the message using all high tones like the one today. These occurre= nces are not unknown but rare-er. Just a thought the Alpha beacons are off again, maybe a little more= comms is necessary. Without going into my theory of navigation beacon= denial, oh I have said it. If they can turn the navigation off for lo= ng periods lately and carry on without them, why do they bother to use= them at all. Oh got it, maybe they have the Captains XYL on board and she is doin= g the navigating. 73 Eddie G3ZJO =20 On 24/05/2011 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote:=20 Hi Henny - the time is certainly different but the format looks th= e same to me: 82 Hz for four minutes to start, followed by three 4 min= ute tones of 82.4, 82.8 and 83. These three 'message' tones are then= always (for recent transmissions) followed by 4 minutes at 80.8 - the= n the three tones are repeated and the signal goes back to 82 Hz for= an hour. Eddie G3ZJO has identified that signals seem to made up from 12 to= nes from 80.8 to 83.0 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the first and last is= always 82Hz and the mid-tone is always 80.8. The three 'message' tone= s are repeated.=20 Will be interesting to see if the 1700UTC transmission is still on= schedule.=20 73 Chris G3WCD =20 On 24/05/2011 14:08, henny van elst wrote:=20 Hi LF, Zevs transmitting on a strange time,and the shift is strange too= , henny pa3cpm 73's Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen word= en verzonden: Zevs 24-05.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen= virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen nie= t toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wil= t weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 10.0.1321 / Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte:= 05/23/11 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CC1A43.D510A2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eddie,Chris,
the high tones,that is what = ; I means=20 with the wrong shift,
henny pa3cpm
73's
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 qrss<= /A>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011= 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wrong time= Zevs=20 24-05.jpg

Hi Chris/Henny/LF

I shall never get started on= the job I=20 wanted to do today so I have re-joined the ZEVS monitors.

The= inter=20 sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd due to the mes= sage using=20 all high tones like the one today. These occurrences are not unknown= but=20 rare-er.

Just a thought the Alpha beacons are off again, mayb= e a little=20 more comms is necessary. Without going into my theory of navigation= beacon=20 denial, oh I have said it. If they can turn the navigation off for= long=20 periods lately and carry on without them, why do they bother to use= them at=20 all.

Oh got it, maybe they have the Captains XYL on board and= she is=20 doing the navigating.

73 Eddie G3ZJO 


On 24/= 05/2011=20 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote:=20
= Hi Henny -=20 the time is certainly different but the format looks the same to= me: 82 Hz=20 for four minutes to start, followed by three 4 minute tones of 82.= 4, 82.8=20 and 83. These three 'message' tones are then always (for recent=20 transmissions) followed by 4 minutes at 80.8 - then the three tone= s are=20 repeated and the signal goes back to 82 Hz for an hour.

Edd= ie G3ZJO=20 has identified that signals seem to made up from 12 tones from 80.= 8 to 83.0=20 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the first and last is always 82Hz and= the=20 mid-tone is always 80.8. The three 'message' tones are repeated.= =20

Will be interesting to see if the 1700UTC transmission is= still on=20 schedule.

73 Chris G3WCD 


On 24/05/2011= 14:08,=20 henny van elst wrote:=20
Hi LF,
Zevs transmitting on a strange= time,and the=20 shift is strange too,
henny pa3cpm
73's
Het bericht ka= n nu met het=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
Zevs=20 24-05.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter= =20 beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaal= de=20 bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellinge= n voor uw=20 e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden=20 afgehandeld.


Geen virus gevonde= n in dit=20 bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 10.0.1321 /=20 Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte:=20 05/23/11

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