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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thank you Stefan: I have been toying with Bridge-T diplexers to better match my LPF or BPF filters to the preamps on two different LF/MF converters, and I believe I see a worthwhile improvement in matching the filter output to the preamp input. It is a challenge to build a filter to 1% tolerance and impedance match with silver mica caps and FT50-61 inductors, even with Litz wire like 17/40 size. So having a good Z match reference between the filter and preamp stages seems to help improve performance. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: www.n1bug.com] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: www.n1bug.com] X-Scan-Signature: 968492e608ae81f946d7c13a3d073eeb Subject: Re: LF: Re: [Lowfer] Tx this w/e 136.172kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thank you Stefan: I have been toying with Bridge-T diplexers to better match my LPF or BPF filters to the preamps on two different LF/MF converters, and I believe I see a worthwhile improvement in matching the filter output to the preamp input. It is a challenge to build a filter to 1% tolerance and impedance match with silver mica caps and FT50-61 inductors, even with Litz wire like 17/40 size. So having a good Z match reference between the filter and preamp stages seems to help improve performance. Perhaps using a Bridge-T diplexer at LF/MF/HF can be loosely compared to using an isolator at microwave frequencies, to improve return loss and preamplifier stability. Except the bridge-T diplexer is bi-directional and EM operational. whereas an isolator at microwave range is a directional matching device which is a magnetic dominant component... In either case, they are usually (much) more efficient than using attenuator pads for inter-stage Z matching.... This may be old information to others, but it made for a worthwhile LF experiment over the past season for me.. 73, Mike wa3tts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DK7FC" To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: [Lowfer] Tx this w/e 136.172kHz > Congrats to Mike and all involved. > > Do the good old times come back?! > > 73, Stefan > > Am 24.03.2018 16:03, schrieb N1BUG: >> I had almost a full call sign capture in the 2300 hour. >> >> http://www.n1bug.com/g3xdv-1.jpg >> >> Bits and pieces at 0100 and 0300. I fell asleep and didn't disable >> my transmitter for the 0500 hour but I could see enough in my pauses >> to know the first 40 minutes would have been clean copy with a big >> fade after that. >> >> 73, >> Paul N1BUG >> >> >> On 03/24/2018 10:45 AM, Michael Sapp wrote: >> >>> Mike& All: >>> >>> >>> Noticed this at QRSS30 in the 0300 hour >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubyhg6sbdimaoj4/xdv1.jpg?dl=0 >>> >>> >>> Switched to QRSS60 >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ik5xudqunr2gcz1/xdv2.jpg?dl=0 >>> >>> Almost a call sign capture. I can divine an "X" for the first character >>> if >>> >>> I count the startup smudge on the waterfall display at 137.172. The "D" >>> is >>> missing >>> >>> the second "dit". The V is visually detectable ending at the top of the >>> hour even though the dash is fading... >>> >>> >>> Received on my NE EWE antenna with 300 kHz LPF and 137 kHz bridge T >>> diplexers on I/O of 2N3904 broadband preamp, then to mixer, etc.. >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p99k2xfl4q2ui3i/IMG_1125.JPG?dl=0 >>> >>> Thanks (very very much) for the beaconing.... >>> >>> >>> 73 Mike wa3tts EN90xn >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Dennison" >>> To:; >>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 1:40 PM >>> Subject: LF: Tx this w/e 136.172kHz >>> >>> >>> >>>> I will be transmitting QRSS60 on 136.1721kHz overnight tonight and >>>> for the next two nights. Transmissions will comprise my callsign, and >>>> will start exactly on the odd-numbered (UTC) hour from 1900 to 0500 >>>> and last just over an hour (eg 1900-2002, 2100-2202 . . . to >>>> 0500-0602). >>>> >>>> Reports will be welcome as always. >>>> >>>> Mike, G3XDV >>>> ========== >>>> >> >