Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj05.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.89]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC084-a98e4d5d92d9399; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:27:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BCE813800008B; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PqBN2-0000jM-P7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:40 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PqBN2-0000jD-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:40 +0000 Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.100.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PqBN0-0002l9-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:40 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1HLQUut028315 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:26:30 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbe415b.pool.mediaWays.net [77.190.65.91]) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 35CDBE0000CF for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:26:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4D5C4456.309@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <006715DF6D634AA9A7116C05927DAC87@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:26:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: dreamers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CBCEF1.BBEECA20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89aa4d5d92d77772 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CBCEF1.BBEECA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Henny and Victor, that's a very nice result, and a deserved reward for the effort of win= ding that coil! I'm not quite clear about the distance. Conceptually there is a large= difference: 3 km could still be termed "capacitive coupling", wheras= 4 miles would be out of the magic near field boundary (lambda / 2pi),= involving radiation and Hertzian waves ;-) =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: henny van elst=20 Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:51 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: dreamers Hello Stefan, the signal source is an adret ocxo controlled signal generator up to= 2 Mhz.pa is for now a sony lf 25Watt amp.conected with a tv transform= ator used as a step-up,and then to the bottom of the loadingcoil.the= dc resistance is 225ohm,the antenne is a 10 meter sloper,Victor is on= ly 4 miles away,so it is a start, henny cpm 73's From: victor13@online.nl=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:43 PM To: blacksheep=20 Subject: LF: dreamers HI all first reception of PA3CPM at 8.920 KHz,distance 3Km congrats Henny, Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CBCEF1.BBEECA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dea= r Henny and=20 Victor,
 
that's a very nice result, and= a deserved=20 reward for the effort of winding that coil!
 
I'm not quite clear about the di= stance.=20 Conceptually there is a large difference: 3 km could still be ter= med=20 "capacitive coupling", wheras 4 miles would be out of the magic= near field=20 boundary (lambda / 2pi), involving radiation and Hertzian waves=20 ;-)  
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
Sent: Thursday, February= 17, 2011=20 10:51 AM
To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF:=20 dreamers

Hello Stefan,
 
the signal source is an adret ocxo co= ntrolled=20 signal generator up to 2 Mhz.pa is for now a sony lf 25Watt amp.conect= ed with a=20 tv transformator used as a step-up,and then to the bottom of the loadi= ngcoil.the=20 dc resistance is 225ohm,the antenne is a 10 meter sloper,Victor is onl= y 4 miles=20 away,so it is a start,
 
henny cpm
73's
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: LF: dreamers

HI all

first reception of PA3CPM at 8.920 KHz,distance=20 3Km
congrats Henny,

Victor
PA3FNY
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