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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan - this is great news. I installed and operated the still in operation 10m Antarctic beacon on Rothera base 6734S 6808W back in 79, and was a avid LF/MF listener then and seasonally could hear Eu and America NDBs; even Capital Radio in "London" on 1548kHz as it was then. Even watched BBC1 TV on 405 lines on a Black and White TV [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID BODY: Test for Invalidly Named or Formatted Colors in HTML 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 0b0eeb0b31b0fa270890b9e167cbd6d9 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Antarctica on 630m WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY4PR11MB1927B917E6E44FB5FFD2B46BCFD80CY4PR11MB1927namp_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_CY4PR11MB1927B917E6E44FB5FFD2B46BCFD80CY4PR11MB1927namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan - this is great news. I installed and operated the still in operati= on 10m Antarctic beacon on Rothera base 6734S 6808W back in 79, and was a a= vid LF/MF listener then and seasonally could hear Eu and America NDBs; even= Capital Radio in "London" on 1548kHz as it was then. Even watched BBC1 TV = on 405 lines on a Black and White TV As ever remote NDBs that were close to the Pacific or Atlantic ocean were s= trongest and some time Huge signals, especially West coast Pacific stations= - and of course this predates digital/visual detection Im sure there will be detection for Eu and Americas/SA, and perhaps ZL/VK b= ut the geomag field can be kind of unkind in that direction at time. Neumayer 1 was just being built on my first trip but got to speak to them a= nd exchanged weather on HF in 82/82 when I was stationed at Faraday, Argent= ine Islands. Our 420kHz 100W 40ft top loaded vertical NDB at Rothera (ROT) was often hea= rd off continent. Is morphed a bit and moved freq since then Im advised Cheers Laurence KL7L etc ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org on behalf of DK7FC Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:31 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Antarctica on 630m WSPR PS: Now it is up to the active stations how this will continue! If we can leave a decode on their site, they will probably put more attenti= on and enthusiasm into that 630m band, even if our 50 Hz sidebands are just= rejected by 37 dB. Alternatively we can reject them by 50 dB at 10W RF and stay here in a rang= e of 1000 km. 73, Stefan Am 07.03.2018 19:21, schrieb DK7FC: Hi Luis, Yes, play the ball!!!! You are in an excellent location and your signal is,= i would say, in the TOP 3 of EU :-) I'm still transmitting on VLF daily but if DP0GVN comes on air before 22:30= UTC i may give it a short try. The greyline is reaching their location right now!! Due to the always up to date image of their webcam i assume that they will = upload sports immediately. 73, Stefan Am 07.03.2018 19:07, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez: Nice to see the good news Stefan :) Now the ball is in our side. From 4 to 7 UTC may be a good window for North= America too 73 de Luis EA5DOM De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 07 de marzo de 2018 16:22 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: LF: Antarctica on 630m WSPR Hi MF, Since a few weeks the German Antarctic research station Neumayer III (http= s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neumayer-Station_III) is running a Red Pitaya on = a wideband RX antenna to receive/decode/upload WSPR reports on up to 8 band= s simultaneously. You may have noticed them already on the WSPR map on othe= r bands. I saw regular spots on 160m from DL statations and other countries= in EU. They seem to have quite a good satellite internet connection. So uploading = WSPR spots is no problem. They also run an up to date webcam showing an ima= ge for example here: https://www.qrz.com/db/dp0gvn One of the maintainers of the radio station there is Felix / DL5XL. I know = him personally and, taking the idea of EA5DOM, i contacted him and asked if= they want to try to receive on 630m as well. Yesterday i got an answer. DP0GVN in IB59UH will receive WSPR(2) on 630m daily between 4...7 UTC now. I asked them if they can extend the time to 20...07 UTC. Let's see. So turn on your PAs and make a first contact from your continent to Antarct= ica on 630m! And spread the message into other reflectors, VK could be in a= favorite position. 73, Stefan --_000_CY4PR11MB1927B917E6E44FB5FFD2B46BCFD80CY4PR11MB1927namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan  - this is great news. I installed and operated the still in op= eration 10m Antarctic beacon on Rothera base 6734S 6808W back in 79, and wa= s a avid LF/MF listener then and seasonally could hear Eu and America NDBs;= even Capital Radio in "London" on 1548kHz as it was then. Even watched BBC1 TV on 405 lines on a Black and White TV<= /div>

As ever remote NDBs that were close to the Pacific or Atlantic ocean were s= trongest and some time Huge signals, especially West coast Pacific stations= - and of course this predates digital/visual detection

Im sure there will be detection for Eu and Americas/SA, and perhaps ZL/VK b= ut the geomag field can be kind of unkind in that direction at time.

Neumayer 1 was just being built on my first trip but got to speak to them a= nd exchanged weather on HF in 82/82 when I was stationed at Faraday, Argent= ine Islands.

Our 420kHz 100W 40ft top loaded vertical NDB at Rothera (ROT) was= often heard off continent. Is morphed a bit and moved freq since then Im a= dvised

Cheers

Laurence KL7L etc
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> on behalf of DK7FC= <selberdenken@posteo.de>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:31 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Antarctica on 630m WSPR
 
PS: Now it is up to the active stations how this will continue!

If we can leave a decode on their site, they will probably put more attenti= on and enthusiasm into that 630m band, even if our 50 Hz sidebands are just= rejected by 37 dB.
Alternatively we can reject them by 50 dB at 10W RF and stay here in a rang= e of 1000 km.

73, Stefan


Am 07.03.2018 19:21, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Luis,

Yes, play the ball!!!! You are in an excellent location and your signal is,= i would say, in the TOP 3 of EU :-)
I'm still transmitting on VLF daily but if DP0GVN comes on air before 22:30= UTC i may give it a short try.
The greyline is reaching their location right now!!
Due to the always up to date image of their webcam i assume that they will = upload sports immediately.

73, Stefan


Am 07.03.2018 19:07, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez:

Nice to see t= he good news Stefan J=

 =

Now the ball = is in our side. From 4 to 7 UTC may be a good window for North America too<= /span>

 =

73 de Luis

EA5DOM=

 =

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 07 de marzo de 2018 16:22
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: Antarctica on 630m WSPR

 

Hi MF,

Since a few weeks the German Antarctic research station Neumayer III  = (https://en.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Neumayer-Station_III) is running a Red Pitaya on a w= ideband RX antenna to receive/decode/upload WSPR reports on up to 8 bands simultaneously. You may have noticed them al= ready on the WSPR map on other bands. I saw regular spots on 160m from DL s= tatations and other countries in EU.

They seem to have quite a good satellite internet connection. So uploading = WSPR spots is no problem. They also run an up to date webcam showing an ima= ge for example here:
https://www.qrz.com/db/dp0gvn=

One of the maintainers of the radio station there is Felix / DL5XL. I know = him personally and, taking the idea of EA5DOM, i contacted him and asked if= they want to try to receive on 630m as well. Yesterday i got an answer.
DP0GVN in IB59UH will receive WSPR(2) on 630m daily between 4...7 UTC no= w.

I asked them if they can extend the time to 20...07 UTC. Let's see.

So turn on your PAs and make a first contact from your continent to = Antarctica on 630m! And spread the message into other reflectors, VK could = be in a favorite position.


73, Stefan

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