Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 11DE2380000B5; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RBt0g-000197-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:49:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RBt0g-00018y-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:49:34 +0100 Received: from nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RBt0f-0007u8-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:49:34 +0100 Received: from [212.82.108.229] by nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2011 18:49:27 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.226] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2011 18:49:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2011 18:49:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 462005.30227.bm@omp1003.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75744 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2011 18:49:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=347/zh4GvRrX2sPm7aZ2o/OVtzcADckikE9wbKhe6aCMfNdYjSB9MXpSbDsZTaawNkIJRl6HKIVLE8ytRfqlblRMdNOzLOumJPtKil1KZ7w8x1MozqcLhaCpRH3CQkuT2c3MoYuVQqoU/0YEDC4oue0l0L/2wFmqij+Wc53QCzg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1317926966; bh=FVuNpGCJK/PAciiH1SQQ2a0IetCjEJ78eL0O9ssfZAo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=R7bCfXECma28Wf337kzpxYwhMrEGLlqi9q0uuxR8y37k/zeFgj3w/k0kDy9+2/GgLEgYzW8CRTH2hZ0rzBPl5NcC2xmmQqrX8b9VPhbcZeMJCxLkjfyh+RpamwTlwWVjq0J4/EQPZKTP+9MT/A5AiAik3SDmPeSDz0hL8LQQFXM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: bL_TJzEVM1msrGIZM8VeeRRts2BFoUdDLFEgcOS0iMEN5.v YVcTWdGBk0iCe830gQeWN3LZ6LmVoK_rdGZ_SR_37L86RAN9setORwTITaAF B4YThlJiX4oNVdjjnrAGBFskbDapsstQG.bBRyABwICO6eC.274CS0cO9lTW vVAruyqE2mVMXY4A0_u7IqFhhDh7CP3IJ2MK7IVMyKNiRkIZAxAtEtEyVaxc 97riDYm2Hm.DuyX3jXQiOMpxLwSktoBYsFunUxRPSr_sWFdtJ57N26txyHiM _xRxskj_NRp0jRMDo_A8OeJ9HS4RTgyJNGMiXzKMaSGxb0HfMvhEBTNh3FZD cojfE7D6PTy641pk1FDLsTmA0fzIFBSg3jHwEyHm7_f4iuJWm3fmgw8OHx2h csRMhC9FUfpvnAqBhYhk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.173.191.228 with login) by smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Oct 2011 18:49:26 +0000 GMT Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00d101cc8385$36ca2c10$4001a8c0@lark> <96322D70F9974098BE3BAD32EC55648F@AGB> <1317850793.4144.27.camel@pat-compaq-evo> <000d01cc83aa$41c1ca40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1317857588.4715.4.camel@pat-compaq-evo> <1317862909.4715.50.camel@pat-compaq-evo> In-Reply-To: <1317862909.4715.50.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:49:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:465690976:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m001.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084e8df89e516e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Graham, Pat, LF Group, Having in the past done a few presentations on LF at RSGB conventions, I found that LF was definitely a sideshow compared to HF DXing matters, but none the less, there was a worthwhile and quite enthusiastic attendance. Having an LF station at the convention also gave non - HF DXers something to do! Amongst various old amateur radio publications, I have a copy of the January 1946 RSGB Bulletin - predecessor to RadCom. At this time, UK licences were just beginning to be re-issued after the war years, and apparently this was when the change from "radio experimenter's licence" to "radio amateur's licence" was made. The editorial is generally favourable about this official change in status, bringing UK amateurs into alignment with other nations. Apparently, before 1939, any UK amateur transmission was supposed to have some sort of justification as an experiment, and UK stations had to call "TEST" instead of "CQ". The editorial acknowledges that even in these early days, a substantial proportion of amateurs were only really interested in DXing, rather than any radio experimentation. So this argument has been going on for some time... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU