Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aab496d302473; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:22:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab496d302473; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:21:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LMtVp-0000CP-Iy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:21:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LMtVp-0000CG-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:21:37 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LMtVo-000391-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:21:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 10578 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2009 00:21:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:x-mimeole; b=HiZSICXWSp1BTTiQuo1K47uMBb8TnTrjGvk7RS65CtZFl17oiodDKUSKPTNAB8/h9i1Hrc8pWTE5RnOm9QXAPJiKn8IUB8BHWbdJeKrY9LfxNQBubjXNcazWI5oWO91mjsVlnaodm9EShDK66DGXINOzr/DQiTgq2niQA9gcj8o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.134.108.92 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2009 00:21:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: troE_0EVM1k4nQhAiJ6fYCLfgd_ab29USykzMUYWSmh9uG5aTT9rc.mjIo9Um3KQYyxkg3DdoS6yOIbljL0xBef_5jnzbtxum00WthbmOu4WW104ZUbwXDDmWb96qsQcg7uybCnTeAgb723vUY_zZkeI3LG7AfYT1ZMMcgo5vskYsDqLN4rPv0cIoQ5t X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <496D13FA.5010807@usa.net> <496D20F1.5060001@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <496D20F1.5060001@usa.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:21:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR beacon on 136kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Group, Thanks for all the reports - The M0BMU WSPR beacon is still running, and will probably QRT at around 0100utc. So far the reports this evening have been from (in no particular order) F1AFJ, GM4SLV, DF6NM, DL4YHF, F5WK, LA9BEA, F4DTL, DK6NI, G4FDD, F4EMV, I2PHD, G3WCB and IK1ODO. Many thanks to all - It is good to see some calls who are not previously "known" on LF. I would be interested to try another 136k WSPR session during daylight - bearing in mind the long ground wave range on 136k, and the relatively low QRN during the day, I think results could be good. Perhaps this weekend. John - your lack of trees is not such a bad thing on 136k, where they soak up a lot of your TX power. In the experiments I did about a year ago, I found that an inv L antenna that was nearly identical to the antenna I am using now except that it was in the middle of a field, was 24 times as efficient as my home antenna, which is surrounded by assorted trees and buildings ( it was 6 times more efficient on 500k). So you might not need a tall antenna to get a reasonable signal in your treeless landscape. True, I am also using quite high power, but then looking at the SNR figures on your spots, there is about 10 - 20dB margin over the minimum possible SNR for decoding. so you could probably get away with less power too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU