Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b1a4ab7d75a2d0; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC046-b1a4ab7d75a2d0; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MpomP-00087V-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:42:33 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MpomP-00087M-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:42:33 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MpomF-0007Fu-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:42:25 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D88901C00081 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C788C1C00082 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.10.186]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7DCFC1C00081 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090921194217515.7DCFC1C00081@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <47C531A902A946C9BE2EEC5C6B7E2EF3@presario1> <1775028CB7C146B496121BA36FB7093D@AGB> <7D5B0AF5BD6C467F8719EB684EB8D7D5@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7D5B0AF5BD6C467F8719EB684EB8D7D5@JimPC> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:42:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Emails have crossed in the system hi. I note the reply , re USA operating frequency's The large gap in frequency made itself apparent at the time of my first post , but with the availability of digital receivers, with the ability to capture quite large spectrums, as can be observed on for example Gary's grabber page http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html perhaps the gap is not as problematic as might be of been in the past ? A more conventional solution may be to channel scan with the rx , assuming the rx may be controlled by the pc ... how much of the wspr signal do you 'actually need' to decode, what happens if you chop it.. room for experiment ? G . -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:40 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan > > Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident! > > Dear Graham, LF Group, > >> As the European allocation looks to be wider than the Uk, are we >> expecting the UK 3 Khz allocation to remain as is, if and when the >> band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the most >> sensible option ... > > As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, > just > what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think > G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are > licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able > to > use 504.0 - 504.1kHz. > > But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz > as > we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with > the > US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no > strong > signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other > hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those > trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU > stations > would need two receivers/soundcards, etc. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.111/2386 - Release Date: > 09/21/09 05:51:00 >