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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Ah yes, that was you. Isn't it odd, or perhaps not, that the two extreme ends of the spectrum are used by the same people. JT4G I assume It may be worth trying JT9G or H on microwaves. Similar tone spacing to JT4G, but slightly better weak signal performance so it ought to behave well under severe scatter conditions. 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Isn't it odd, or perhaps not, that the two extreme ends of the spectrum are used by the same people. JT4G I assume It may be worth trying JT9G or H on microwaves. Similar tone spacing to JT4G, but slightly better weak signal performance so it ought to behave well under severe scatter conditions. And it offers some Fast modes if signals are good ... but this is the LF reflector, so I'll stop ... Andy www.g4jnt.com On 25 May 2018 at 12:06, VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez wr= ote: > Hi Andy > > > > We do! J > > > > Last ODX two weeks ago was 303km in 47GHz > > And also in digimodes, FT4 and Opera, but we didn=E2=80=99t try FT8 > > > > There is also a video if you want to see the opposite side of the spectru= m > going on > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DINw8IJjn_LE > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *Andy Talbot > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47 > *Para:* LineOne > > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > > > You could always try the microwave bands > > No dependence on the ionosphere > > Too frequency-unstable to support FT8 > > Equipment home-brewed > > Just as much fun... > > > > > Andy > > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > > On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez = wrote: > > Hi Pascal, MF > > > > Uncharted territory. Or better said, it was a very well known band in th= e > past and now we have to re-discover > > Who knows ? > > > > The only CERTAIN is that all the radio universe will collapse into a > single black FT8 hole ;-) > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *Pascal Deveaux > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > > > hello Luis, MF, > What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck? > > Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez" < > luis@vigilant.es> a =C3=A9crit : > > Hi MF > > > > Last night two unique decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were no decodes > since may 21th > > > > 2018-05-25 01:30 > > EA5DOM > > 0.475608 > > -30 > > 0 > > IM98xn > > 1 > > FR5DH > > LG78pw > > 8783 > > 129 > > 2018-05-24 22:30 > > EA5DOM > > 0.475608 > > -26 > > 0 > > IM98xn > > 1 > > FR5DH > > LG78pw > > 8783 > > 129 > > > > The DST has been high this days but there were many Solar X ray flares > untill this settle down yesterday > > > > Almost one moth for solstice and counting ! ;-) > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org ] *En nombre de *VIGIL= ANT > Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez > *Enviado el:* lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > > > Hi MF > > > > On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up > http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/ > > > > 2018-05-21 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-21 00:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -24 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org ] *En nombre de *VIGIL= ANT > Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez > *Enviado el:* domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > > > Hi Pascal, MF > > > > Last night we got some spots again > > > > 2018-05-20 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 01:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -32 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 20:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > > > I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation between > earthquakes and MF propagation > > > > But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this path. It is > not by brute force and ERP power > > So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in vertical plane. > The 90m vertical has probably a > > very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even more chances > to get a very flat take off > > angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four hops instead > of five, which would be the > > case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle > > > > Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which is under the > theoretical maximum > > of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height > > > > Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops shows that > first hop would land in south > > Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the ocean, not > far away from the coast of Kenia > > That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak signal > to reach Reunion in the next bounce at > > decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land on ground > and the extra attenuation may > > left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one > > > > This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know experts opinion > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > ------------------------------ > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com] > *Enviado:* s=C3=A1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > Hi MF, > I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if > the recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception > here. Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR: > > > 2018-05-19 02:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 87= 83 129 2018-05-19 > 01:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 23:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -20 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -23 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 21:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > 73, Pascal > > > 73, > Pascal (FR5DH) > > > --0000000000003e531d056d05e78e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah yes, that was you.
Isn't it odd, or perhaps not= , that the two extreme ends of the spectrum are used by the same people.

JT4G I assume
It may be worth trying JT9G = or H on microwaves.=C2=A0 Similar tone spacing to JT4G, but slightly better= weak signal performance so it ought to behave well under severe scatter co= nditions.=C2=A0 =C2=A0And it offers some Fast modes if signals are good

... but this is the LF reflector, so I'll stop ..= .


On 25 May 2018 at 12:06, VIGILANT Luis Fern= =C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es> wrote:

Hi Andy

=C2=A0

We do! J

=C2=A0

Last ODX two weeks ago= was 303km in 47GHz

And also in digimodes,= FT4 and Opera, but we didn=E2=80=99t try FT8

=C2=A0

There is also a video = if you want to see the opposite side of the spectrum going on=

https://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DINw8IJjn_LE

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Andy Talbot
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47
Para: LineOne <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>


Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots
=

=C2=A0

You could always try the microwave bands

No dependence on the ionosphere

Too frequency-unstable to support FT8<= /p>

Equipment home-brewed

Just as much fun...

=C2=A0


Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1nde= z <luis@vigilant.e= s> wrote:

Hi Pascal, MF

=C2=A0

Uncharted territory. O= r better said, =C2=A0it was a very well known band in the past and now we have to re-discover

Who knows ?<= /u>

=C2=A0

The only CERTAIN is th= at all the radio universe will collapse into a single black FT8 hole=C2=A0 ;-)

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] En nombre de Pascal Deveaux
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots

=C2=A0

hello Luis, MF,
What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck?<= /p>

Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Lu= is Fern=C3=A1ndez" <luis@vigilant.es> a =C3=A9crit :

Hi=C2=A0 MF

=C2=A0

Last night two unique = decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were no decodes since may 21th<= /u>

=C2=A0

=C2=A02018-05-25 01:30=C2=A0

=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0

=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0

=C2=A0-30=C2=A0

=C2=A00=C2=A0

=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0

=C2=A01=C2=A0

=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0

=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0

=C2=A08783=C2=A0

=C2=A0129=C2=A0

=C2=A02018-05-24 22:30=C2=A0

=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0

=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0

=C2=A0-26=C2=A0

=C2=A00=C2=A0

=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0

=C2=A01=C2=A0

=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0

=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0

=C2=A08783=C2=A0

=C2=A0129=C2=A0

=C2=A0

The DST has been high = this days but there were many Solar X ray flares untill this settle down yesterday

=C2=A0

Almost one moth for so= lstice and counting ! ;-)

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez
Enviado el: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

=C2=A0

Hi MF=

=C2=A0

On more night of good = conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/=

=C2=A0

2018-05-21 01:20=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-31=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-21 00:20=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-29=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 23:50=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 23:40=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129

2018-05-20 23:10=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-24=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0

2018-05-20 23:00=C2=A0= =C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-29=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2= =A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08= 783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez
Enviado el: domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

=C2=A0

Hi Pascal, MF

=C2=A0

Last night we got some spots again

=C2=A0

2018-05-20 01:40=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 01:20=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 01:00=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 23:40=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-32=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:30=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:20=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:00=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 20:10=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0= =C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-31=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2= =A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0=C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129= =C2=A0

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I'm afraid (and really hope) that th= ere is no correlation between earthquakes and MF propagation<= u>

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But really wondering why I'm getting= so good chances in this path. It is not by brute force and ERP power

So, the other possibility is antenna rad= iation pattern in vertical plane. The 90m vertical has probably a

very low radiation pattern. And at sea c= oast that means even more chances to get a very flat take off=

angle to FR5. So low that may be I can r= each there with four hops instead of five, which would be the=

case for an average antenna with higer r= adiation angle

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Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2= 196Km per hop. Which is under the theoretical maximum<= /p>

of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100= Km height

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Path profile from here to Reunion, provi= ding four 2196Km hops shows that first hop would land in south

Libya desert area, second in Sudan deser= t and third into the ocean, not far away from the coast of Kenia<= /u>

That third bouncing in sea water would b= e a bonus for a weak signal to=C2=A0reach Reunion in the next bounce at=C2=A0

decodable levels. With five shorter hops= the third would land on ground and the extra attenuation may=

left no much for a fourth hop to the oce= an and then a five one

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This are just my thoughts. Would be inte= resting to know experts opinion

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73 de Luis

EA5DOM

De: own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com]
Enviado: s=C3=A1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

Hi MF,
I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if t= he recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception here.= Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR:


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73, Pascal


73,
Pascal (FR5DH)

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