Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t6SK2TPK032625 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:02:29 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZKB0V-0007xa-Fu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:57:47 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZKB0U-0007xR-W1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:57:46 +0100 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKAzV-0006Mt-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:57:45 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.145.21]) by mwinf5d25 with ME id xvwX1q0110Tv8bE03vwX0P; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:56:32 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:56:32 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.26.145.21 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <250458229AB24864B6D6633036163504@AGB><1672351437585221@web27g.yandex.ru> <70D418B56B09425D8003F852AE318C2D@AGB> <81871438092585@web9j.yandex.ru> <6F0EBFD6E34B47FA86F11E8F99CA2A78@AGB> <55B7D9E6.2060604@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <55B7D9E6.2060604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:56:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: ed61426f02b79b6841b351c08fba4dcb Subject: Re: LF: Flash events Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01D0C977.E19A9580" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3738 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01D0C977.E19A9580 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AB_01D0C977.E19A9580" ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01D0C977.E19A9580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well spotted ... that wont help =20 Tnx-G, From: Gary - G4WGT=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:37 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Flash events Graham, I note that VK2XGJ is running Opera v1.5.3, this could be a problem with = frequency alignment ? v1.5.8 is decoding in 478.450 kHz to 478.550 kHz. v1.5.3 is decoding in 478.500 kHz to 478.600 kHz. 50% of the decoding area is outside the current versions limits. 73, de Gary - G4WGT =20 MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html .On 28/07/2015 19:27, Graham wrote: VK2XGJ showing on the psk-map as monitoring 477 OP8=20 As Laurence notes , round the gray line time , is the the time = ! First over the line wins a coco-nut ! 73-G,=20 Monitor: VK2XGJ Loc QF55JL Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m) Using: Opera v1.5.3/Rptr V1.6 Antenna: RX Op8 Show all seen by VK2XGJ Last report: VK2XGJ at Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:17:03 GMT From: Roman=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Flash events GD Laurence! 28.07.2015, 07:46, "Laurence KL7 L" : 2009-09-05 2008Z SM6BHZ 0.503951 -30 0 JO57wq 10 BY3A = OM89ua 7254 55 ...used 2.5K and vy effective umbrella 25ms high. =20 Example above - Gus was in for multiple days around about the same = time, just short of my daytime gray line - Antennae was PA0RDT atop a = City tower block near Bohia Bay I was vy surprised about mini-whip using in the city. This is unreal = in Moscow for example. Industrial noice and other interference vy high = from chinise power supply's here. Why there was no interference in China?))) =20 Laurence KL7L (BY3A et al) =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:14:17 +0100 Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 That's assuming the path stays open long enough , I think = these are flash events , all the long haul on 500 has been = single or I think 2 decodes for sm6bhz wspr to china , with tx = at 100% duty , but upto now , there is not a solid data decode = either way .. But its that time again soon : ) 73-G, From: Roman RW3ADB Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 Hi Graham!=20 Op8 practically the same not more QRSS-3.=20 QRSS-120 will be more really 146% I think -) As we are know 30m high ant vy effective for 477. Mal and DI2AM used = the same on 500 many years ago. 140W real power, not QRPPPPP. 73! Roman Personal email: rw3adb@ya.ru I use rw3adb.rsgb.lf@gmail.com for LF group only. 2015-07-22 20:50 GMT+03:00 Graham : Why bother ? , at these levels , no need for the dynamic = detector , should decode directly ....as OP8 73-G, From: Roman Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 Khm.. Have a choice fly to Europe using QRSS-120... 15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK5ABN Op8 663 km -8 dB F:22% in Nairne with = 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vertical 15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK2XGJ Op8 467 km -2 dB F:24% in Dapto, = Australia with 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vert =20 22.07.2015, 19:12, "Graham" : Some significant signals rolling round VK at the moment = on 477KHz ! Rx at Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:38:21 GMT From VK5FQ by VK2XGJ Loc QF55JL Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -15dB Distance: 1119 km bearing 91=9C Good time to leave the RX on 477 VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21=20 VK3ELV VK5ZVS 600m OPERA 703 km 12:19:41=20 VK5FQ VK3ELV 600m OPERA 703 km 12:38:22=20 VK3ELV VK5CV 600m OPERA 693 km 15:55:31=20 VK3ELV VK5ABN 600m OPERA 662 km 15:55:32=20 VK3ELV VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 467 km 15:13:39=20 VK5FQ VK5ABN 600m OPERA 40 km 13:08:21=20 VK5FQ VK5CV 600m OPERA 11 km 13:08:20=20 73-G, --=20 73! Roman, RW3ADB --=20 73! Roman, RW3ADB ------=_NextPart_001_00AB_01D0C977.E19A9580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well  spotted  ...  that  wont  help  =
 
Tnx-G,

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Flash events

Graham,

I note that VK2XGJ is running Opera = v1.5.3, this=20 could be a problem with frequency alignment ?

v1.5.8 is decoding = in=20 478.450 kHz to 478.550 kHz.
v1.5.3 is decoding in 478.500 kHz to = 478.600=20 kHz.

50% of the decoding area is outside the current versions = limits.
73, de Gary - G4WGT
                           =20
MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.t=
iscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
Web : http://myweb.tisc=
ali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html

.
On 28/07/2015 19:27, Graham = wrote:
VK2XGJ    showing  on the  psk-map  = as=20 monitoring  477 OP8
As  Laurence notes ,  round  the  gray = line =20 time , is the  the  time !
 
First  over  the  line  wins a  = coco-nut =20 !
 
73-G,
 
 

Monitor:=20 VK2XGJ Loc QF55JLFrequency:=20 0.477 MHz (600m)Using:=20 Opera v1.5.3/Rptr V1.6Antenna:=20 RX Op8Show=20 all seen by VK2XGJLast=20 report: VK2XGJat=20 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:17:03 GMT
 
 

From: Roman =
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Flash events

GD Laurence!
 
28.07.2015, 07:46, "Laurence KL7 L" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail= .com>:
2009-09-05 2008Z SM6BHZ  0.503951   = -30   0   JO57wq   10  =20 BY3A   OM89ua   7254 55
 
...used 2.5K and vy effective umbrella 25ms high.
 

 
Example above - Gus was in for multiple days = around about=20 the same time, just short of my daytime gray line - Antennae = was PA0RDT=20 atop a City tower block near Bohia Bay
 
I was vy surprised about mini-whip using in the city. This is = unreal in=20 Moscow for example. Industrial noice and other interference vy high = from=20 chinise power supply's here.
Why there was no interference in China?)))
 

 
Laurence KL7L  (BY3A et al)
 
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: = Tue, 28 Jul=20 2015 01:14:17 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 = km=20 12:38:21

That's assuming  the  path  stays  = open  long=20 enough , I think  these  are  flash  = events ,=20 all  the  long haul  on 500  has  = been =20 single  or I think  2  decodes  for  sm6bhz = wspr=20  to  china , with  tx at  100%  duty , = but  upto  now , there  is not a solid data  = decode=20 either  way ..
 
But  its  that  time  again soon : )
 
73-G,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km=20 12:38:21
 
Hi Graham!=20
 
Op8 practically the same not more QRSS-3. 
QRSS-120 will be more really 146% I think -)
As we are know 30m high ant vy effective for 477. Mal and DI2AM = used=20 the same on 500 many years ago.
140W real power, not QRPPPPP.
 
 

73!
Roman
 
Personal email: rw3adb@ya.ru
I use rw3adb.rsgb.lf@gmail.com for LF = group=20 only.

2015-07-22 20:50 GMT+03:00 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&g= t;:
Why  bother ? , at these  levels , no  = need =20 for the  dynamic  detector , should  decode =20 directly ....as OP8
 
73-G,
 
From: Roman
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km=20 12:38:21
 
Khm.. Have a choice fly to Europe using QRSS-120...
 
15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK5ABN Op8 663 km -8 dB F:22% in Nairne = with 140w=20 + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vertical
15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK2XGJ Op8 467 km -2 dB F:24% in Dapto, = Australia=20 with 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres = Vert
 
22.07.2015, 19:12, "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&g= t;:
Some  significant   signals  = rolling =20 round  VK at the  moment  on  477KHz !
 
Rx=20 at Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:38:21 GMTFrom VK5FQ by VK2XGJ Loc=20 QF55JLFrequency:=20 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -15dBDistance:=20 1119 km bearing 91=9C
 
Good  time  to  leave  the  RX on=20 477
 
VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 VK3ELV VK5ZVS 600m OPERA 703 km 12:19:41 VK5FQ VK3ELV 600m OPERA 703 km 12:38:22 VK3ELV VK5CV 600m OPERA 693 km 15:55:31 VK3ELV VK5ABN 600m OPERA 662 km 15:55:32 VK3ELV VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 467 km 15:13:39 VK5FQ VK5ABN 600m OPERA 40 km 13:08:21 VK5FQ VK5CV 600m OPERA 11 km 13:08:20
 
73-G,
 
 
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73!
Roman, RW3ADB
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73!
Roman, RW3ADB
 

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