Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uAKDQH76001988 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 14:26:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c8S5F-0004at-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c8S5F-0004ak-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:23:01 +0000 Received: from rgout0303.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.209] helo=rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c8S5C-0001YJ-9U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:23:00 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.178.51.208 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=12/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.11.20.130016:17:12.455,ip=,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Received: from gnat (86.178.51.208) by rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.07.01-1) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 581B45AB01C364C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:22:57 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1479648178; bh=iovo/pkExOQyWDNajmR0ckJir7GdNXmYuJKHFP1cbw0=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=Q4xNHvFMjI78XwM8aejVx6prHozzwkC7nZ49xoLUG51gKP/5f7bQATQZdSNrVdth5IbMscuYPP2po3VgO/eQkVFLo1SMjMISs6T3NxQyuoklCqF8iaACbz3vjfJ8TbDnaveAX7p6DvfZ1logw1ffN1cb5Pl1TUBpJOmlFx3Ithc= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <755926527.854934.1479645649028.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <755926527.854934.1479645649028@mail.yahoo.com> <42728F28A2CB4D0688619EA9AA5BA85A@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:22:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: b1e5ebccbad86c8ca1fd46d24f0285de Subject: Re: LF: bounce test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 2360 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9497 Hi Chris ....yes you should I do....mostly though some end up in my ISP mail spam folder. However some ISPs regard all mails from self to self as spam . If you post to the group you will usually get a bounce message from "bounce.io" telling you it could not deliver to g3xzx, and including a gratuitous advert. it is a way they seek to make money out of this without any agreement. They state that the web-host can get a cut of the advertising revenue, but they make no attempt to contact the web host before enabling the interception. I suppose we ought to complain of abuse (if I knew who to complain to.....feel free if you do know) Unfortunately they only way these could be stopped is to unsub the address but without admin access we cant do that and the domain ....an old rsgb one.....is no longer active. So if you change addresses PLEASE unsub the old one before it expires and rejoin with the new one. Fortunaely we have a stable membership or we would be flooded with this rubbish Blacksheep soldiers on now providing service for in excess of 20 years to LFers. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: bounce test > Is this something new? I have always, for years, got a copy of my own > messages back. > Chris, G4AYT. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M0FMT" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: LF: bounce test > > >> Tnx fer info but bounce backs are the norm now with black-sheep.... :-( >> >> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX >> >> On Sun, 20/11/16, Alan Melia wrote: >> >> Subject: LF: bounce test >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2016, 12:28 >> >> Just to get an example of the >> bounce.io response. >> >> Please note these responses do not suggest your message has >> not been >> accepted, they show that one members address, now obselete, >> cannot be >> delivered to. They are only sent to the originator but are a >> pain. The owner >> of bounce.io has been advised he does not have authority to >> intercept these >> emails and has been requested to desist.....with no reply of >> course. >> >> Alan >> G3NYK >> >> >> >> > >