Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD085-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9e-0002vL-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9d-0002vC-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:41 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8F8u-0006cl-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:29:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 70302 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=34efLcgDRs1wuRZE0iiR/18n4L3fgEGoU5Tpj9P5nRAfe0+Ogpq0cvkleCP60qLVapjzTVe0saFvqhaRlRWR21HJIGCPMuL13GaMMWPfXagki7bErFePvA2ACmqm8TmcTYFDPEL6CJi2EFDeJPQLOG9KAM4JicGO+uR2E/qtUtA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.142.159.245 with login) by smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 15:30:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: 4qorhkQVM1nAJSvKNOZrw5DXX.qw1O_D19FFstg4XxGVXQl7ToKmXCWi1TMCAlwoq1X2R4NtTo2APP.oXMDBRXdvPEEn85OBdEC6RbWErMhGVFk7G9E9rNQJzMJnVxHz9G6ExVG.u4asjYxYqNfbINr7sejlliFz8DSx8DCwPd.Ex8IG21v3n1mDLRkHPLqHuQDfh8te1yDntothy9KMdos1IZA9mwfF66TDayPTVFOwLfuqNvWPzuwGqpeE.cIicRrD5vgsb0edhheZ2mkrGRcJJT_zr11XKPg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorry that I picked on you, only beca= use you'r the nearest. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been= causing you problems and grief. As the "new boy to the band" I did no= t realize I was operating on top of your frequency. =20 =20 Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM. If= you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band= then I'll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times= . Chris did suggest that if I could avoid "WSPRing" on Saturday and= Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would he= lp. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could al= so avoid then do let me know and hopefully we can find a good soluti= on. =20 I certainly don't want to be a "Johnny come lately" and ruin the ban= d for all the other users =20 =20 =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Jim =20 I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequen= cy. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000= QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons= in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it= is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing.= My point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs,= then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreeme= nt about reserving a section for each mode. =20 Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would hav= e alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorr= y that I=20 picked on you, only because you'r the nearest.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:40=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re:= G3XIZ - 1000=20 th MF QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

Not of= fended at all,=20 more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems= and grief.=20 As the =93new boy to the band=94 I did not realize I was operating= on top of your=20 frequency.  

&= nbsp;

Many= apologies to=20 you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let= me know=20 the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I=92ll endeav= our to keep=20 in Rx only mode or QRT during those times.   Chris did sug= gest that=20 if I could avoid =93WSPRing=94 on Saturday and Sunday mornings when= a lot of CW=20 QSOs are underway then that would help. If there are any evening seg= ments or=20 weekday slots that I could also avoid then do  let me know and= =20  hopefully we can find a good solution.

&= nbsp;

I cert= ainly don=92t=20 want to be a =93Johnny come lately=94 and ruin the band for all the= other=20 users

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS 

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From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 17:22
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th=20 MF QSO

 

Hi=20 Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as yo= u=20 are so near and on my xtl frequency.   My comment&nbs= p;was=20 directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also= suffers=20 and others who have complained about beacons in general.  = In fact=20 the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any= signal,=20 beacon or QSO, especially when testing.  My point is that  = ;is there=20 should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then= follows a=20 suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement ab= out=20 reserving a section for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Denni= s=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject= : LF: RE:=20 Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi= =20 Dennis

 

I= did not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it,=20 rather than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work= out a=20 compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a= different=20 frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas= on=20 this.

 

Wit= h best=20 regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr.= James Cowburn=20 G7NKS

Fro= m:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] Sent: 10=20 November 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sit= s on my=20 xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise woul= d be for=20 people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2=20 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message= -----=20

From: Chris Osborn=20

T= o: = LF Group=20

S= ent:=20 Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

S= ubject: LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

L= F

It=20 was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600= m.
This=20 includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600= m /=20 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU= - No. 999=20 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and  = 5=20 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) sp= readsheet=20 lists a total of 59<= /B> stations=20 and many of these go back to the start of the UK  600m allo= cation in=20 March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the pa= st month=20 (excluding beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only br= iefly and=20 were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others we= re once=20 very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT,= G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active= operators=20 it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times an= d the top=20 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most fre= quently=20 worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120    = G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -  =20 38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a= few=20 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band=20 QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

= and our=20 few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ.= .=20 .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad tha= t the=20 present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved= for =20 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call= to mind=20 when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusi= asm' phase=20 lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the nar= row 3 kHz=20 segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for= me to=20 QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ





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