Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b714ab151d01e1; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:00:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD043-b714ab151d01e1; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:00:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mo1ar-0005s3-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:59:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mo1ar-0005ru-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:59:13 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mo1Zl-0005Fy-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:58:05 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3508.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8CF057000082 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:58:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3508.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7F4417000086 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:58:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.70.193]) by mwinf3508.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EED6A7000082 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:58:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090916205856978.EED6A7000082@mwinf3508.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <9afca2640909161002g67ff5386s580f457dd306ddad@mail.gmail.com> <00a901ca370a$417ecc70$0217aac0@jimdesk> <261B000671B34914A1173F8F77A6D3CF@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <261B000671B34914A1173F8F77A6D3CF@JimPC> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:58:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS multiple spots Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 JIm, I think you find that is caused by 50 hz mains hum .... may be a hum loop in the audio system / pc-tx earthling , not likely to be psu problem as frequency is 50 (fund) and 150 ( 3 rd harm) I had a similar problem with my valve HF set , that was a slight ripple on the PA HT line caused by the 100% duty cycle of wspr, not part of the design criteria for ssb/cw , caused spots to appear +/- 100 Hz due to the full wave rectification in the psu G . -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:40 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS multiple spots > > Dear Jim, LF Group, > > >> Me too. I am getting 3 traces (!) from Jim M (he is 9+10 and audible!) >> and >> a biggish one from Gus too > > I am seeing low-level (about -25dB) sidebands on your signal at +/-50Hz > and > +/-150Hz, which are giving rise to the extra spots. I think something > similar is happening when you receive my signal. I am not getting similar > multiple spots from other nearby stations, nor am I seeing the same > sidebands on other strong signals, so I think they must originate in your > station somewhere - possibly audio being affected by mains noise, or some > sort of residual FM of an oscillator in your rig? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.101/2376 - Release Date: > 09/16/09 11:21:00 >