Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=1 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u8L7x8ZN006792 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:59:08 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bmcJz-0001hu-Mt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:51:59 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bmcJy-0001hl-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:51:58 +0100 Received: from smtp13.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.135] helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bmcJw-0005tw-7j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:51:57 +0100 Received: from PCPMF ([83.192.72.114]) by mwinf5d76 with ME id m7rt1t00D2TwiuB037rtL1; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:51:54 +0200 X-ME-Helo: PCPMF X-ME-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:51:54 +0200 X-ME-IP: 83.192.72.114 Message-ID: From: "F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB" To: References: <57D27E26.5070003@posteo.de> <57E1AD02.7040608@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <57E1AD02.7040608@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:51:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 160920-1, 20/09/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Scan-Signature: f4625b23d277cf453c74a2300a95877d Subject: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01D213ED.C898CE00" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8818 Ce message est composi et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01D213ED.C898CE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Stefan. Some comments : Here it keep in memory the last mode and band used when I start... I = have not your problem. I just chek all the menus, but I do not find = anything about that. So ??? Yes The WSPR-15 is not yet implemented, that is perhaps the reason why = this version it is not official... The JT9 and JT65 are working very well I Think also the docode is faster, the Deep option in the decode menu is = fine, it can decode 2 signals very close in frequencies and a bit better = in S/N reports (but I think no more sensitive). I did not tried to open several instances of the V1.7.0 here. Often I = open one XSJT-X v 1.7.0 for WSPR2, one v 0.8 r3058 for WSPR15 and one = for OPERA. That all. Best Luck and 73 Stefan. @++ Andy. From: DK7FC=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X Hello Andy / F6CNI, Thank you for pointing me to WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel, it actually performs = better than my old WSPR-X v0.9 r3058, especially when strong and weak = signals are present in the same time slot! It also shows a 2 dB better = SNR (sometimes) but i don't (still) know if it is 2 dB more sensitive. = Also it decodes faster. I will use it from now on. Unfortunately WSPR-15 is not supported in that mode so i will use the = older version for that. Why does the program not save the band? After a restart it always starts = on 2m... But that's a minor problem... I will see if it runs for weeks without crashing, an important = parameter! How is it possible to run 2 or multiple instances? Do i need 2 = installations? 73, Stefan Am 09.09.2016 11:17, schrieb DK7FC:=20 I think it has to do with different software versions!?=20 imestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20 2016-09-03 09:04 F/DK7FC 0.475681 +38 0 JN29od 1 F6CNI = JN19qb 134 267 =20 I'm still using WSPR-X v0.0 r3058 here. Newer versions performed worse = for some reasons. This version does not produce SNRs better than +15 dB = if i remember correctly. Another thing may be that someone could use e.g. a 250 Hz wide filter = instead of the reference filter bandwidth of 2500 Hz (SSB), which then = produces wrong ("improved") reports. 73, Stefan Am 09.09.2016 10:13, schrieb Max IK0VVE:=20 Could someone explain this? =20 2016-09-08 19:42 IK0VVE 0.475682 +17 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI = JN19qb 1119 322=20 2016-09-08 19:26 IK0VVE 0.475682 +1 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI = JN19qb 1119 322 =20 2016-09-08 19:10 IK0VVE 0.475682 -1 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI = JN19qb 1119 322=20 2016-09-08 18:54 IK0VVE 0.475682 -6 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI = JN19qb 1119 322=20 If I listen my signal with my RX antenna 5 meters far from TX = antenna my SNR is maximum +13 db, also for IZ0GIF that is about 4 km far = from me. Probably Andy has an exceptional receiving system but +17 to more = than 1000 km is a great SNR I thing, HI. After some minute great reports again: 2016-09-08 19:46 DH5RAE 0.475755 +14 1 JN68qv 0.5 F6CNI = JN19qb 730 275 =20 2016-09-08 19:46 PA3ABK/2 0.475740 +19 0 JO21it 0.5 = F6CNI JN19qb 320 198=20 =20 73, Max IK0VVE =20 ______________________________ ...here some of my HAM Radio projects... SkyGeM Rotator AntennaDinamica RCR-DX www.ik0vve.net ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01D213ED.C898CE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Stefan.
 
Some comments :
 
Here it keep in memory the last mode and band used when I start... = I have=20 not your problem. I just chek all the menus, but I do not find anything = about=20 that. So ???
Yes The WSPR-15 is not yet implemented, that is perhaps the reason = why this=20 version it is not official...
The JT9 and JT65 are working very well
I Think also the docode is faster, the Deep option in the decode = menu is=20 fine, it can decode 2 signals very close in frequencies and a bit better = in S/N=20 reports (but I think no more sensitive).
I did not tried to open several instances of the V1.7.0 here. Often = I open=20 one XSJT-X v 1.7.0 for WSPR2, one v 0.8 r3058 for WSPR15 and one for = OPERA. That=20 all.
 
Best Luck and 73 Stefan.
@++ Andy.
 
 
From: DK7FC
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X
 
Hello=20 Andy / F6CNI,

Thank you for pointing me to WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel, = it=20 actually performs better than my old WSPR-X v0.9 r3058, especially when = strong=20 and weak signals are present in the same time slot! It also shows a 2 dB = better=20 SNR (sometimes) but i don't (still) know if it is 2 dB more sensitive. = Also it=20 decodes faster.
I will use it from now on.
Unfortunately WSPR-15 = is not=20 supported in that mode so i will use the older version for that.
Why = does the=20 program not save the band? After a restart it always starts on 2m... But = that's=20 a minor problem...
I will see if it runs for weeks without crashing, = an=20 important parameter!

How is it possible to run 2 or multiple = instances?=20 Do i need 2 installations?

73, Stefan


Am 09.09.2016 = 11:17,=20 schrieb DK7FC:=20
I think = it has to=20 do with different software versions!?

imestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
2016-09-03 09:04 F/DK7FC 0.475681 +38 0 JN29od 1 F6CNI JN19qb 134 267

I'm still = using WSPR-X v0.0=20 r3058 here. Newer versions performed worse for some reasons. This = version does=20 not produce SNRs better than +15 dB if i remember = correctly.

Another=20 thing may be that someone could use e.g. a 250 Hz wide filter instead = of the=20 reference filter bandwidth of 2500 Hz (SSB), which then produces wrong = ("improved") reports.

73, Stefan


Am 09.09.2016 = 10:13,=20 schrieb Max IK0VVE:=20
Could=20 someone explain this?
 
2016-09-08 19:42  = IK0VVE =20 0.475682 +17  0  = JN61km =20 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322
2016-09-08=20 19:26  IK0VVE  0.475682  +1  0  = JN61km =20 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322  =
2016-09-08=20 19:10  IK0VVE  0.475682  -1  0  = JN61km =20 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322
2016-09-08=20 18:54  IK0VVE  0.475682  -6  0  = JN61km =20 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322

If I = listen my=20 signal with my RX antenna 5 meters far from TX antenna my SNR is = maximum +13=20 db, also for IZ0GIF that is about 4 km far from me.
Probably Andy = has an=20 exceptional receiving system but +17 to more than 1000 km is a great = SNR I=20 thing, HI.

After some minute great reports again:

2016-09-08 19:46 DH5RAE 0.475755 +14 1 JN68qv 0.5 F6CNI JN19qb 730 275 2016-09-08 19:46 PA3ABK/2 0.475740 +19 0 JO21it 0.5 F6CNI JN19qb 320 198 
73, Max = IK0VVE =20



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