Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 81175380000AD; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qntfi-0002JY-17 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:40:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qntfh-0002JP-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:40:45 +0100 Received: from smtp04.online.nl ([194.134.41.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qntff-00023g-Gn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:40:45 +0100 Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829E8E23C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s529d275f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [82.157.39.95]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:40:39 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:40:39 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4E355332.6010107@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: frequency doubler and divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:345047424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb4e36bb1e28f7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, wat about a bridge rectifier with a divider? Also broadbanded? 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Stefan Sch=E4fer Verzonden: zondag 31 juli 2011 15:06 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: frequency doubler and divider LF, VLF, I just re-invented the wheel ;-) Just by thinking i found one possible way how to double and divide a rectangular signal, to achieve an accurate 50 % duty cycle :-) One could take a simple XOR gatter like a CD4070 and a RC circuit. The time constant has to be about the half of the period of the wanted frequency, e.g. 3.6 us for 137 kHz. The output of the RC circuit (voltage across C) and the original signal is fed to one single input of the gatter. Then the output frequency will be 2x f input. All this can be found in the internet as well, of course. But if you don't know about that possibility you don't know what to seach in the web too. At least i haven't found that method by searching and it also wasn't discussed here in the recent time. Furthermore i never saw it on a PA design by amateurs i found in the web. The output signal of the 4070 is then fed to the well known frequency divider consisting out of e.g. a CD4013. Then output frequency will be the same as on the input but the duty cycle will be accurate 50%! This is one method to (re-) obtain a suitable drive signal for a H bridge PA or class D PA after passing the driver signal through an optocoupler or so. I'm sure i will use that method now in several circuits, like in the new LF PA that still causes some problems, excactly on that matter! Later i found on the German wiki site: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR-Gatter#Frequenzverdopplung 73, Stefan/DK7FC