Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.139]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD062-8b894cc29c7b1e1; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 04:27:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 46B473800009A; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 04:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P9ZQm-00077i-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:26:24 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P9ZQl-00077Z-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:26:23 +0100 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P9ZQi-0006zz-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:26:23 +0100 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12E1960B3 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 10:26:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 10:26:16 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 10:26:15 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <16BC8B3CA8672445BC2A29B4C14A26D43786CB093D@exlnmb01.eur.nsroot.net> Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: WG: FW: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB729C.B90AD2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b4cc29c780a17 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB729C.B90AD2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coming in more than 20 dB above the noise, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org]Namens Scholz, Marco=20 Verzonden: zaterdag 23 oktober 2010 10:09 Aan: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Onderwerp: AW: LF: WG: FW: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment DK7FC is transmitting with a good signal on 8.97KHz!! You can see his signal on my grabber http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc/vlfgra= bber_dd7pc.html 73 Marco, DD7PC ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 An: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' =20 Gesendet: Sat Oct 23 08:12:45 2010 Betreff: LF: WG: FW: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment=20 Hello LF Group, Short update from Stefan, DK7FC - he is ready and try now to bring= up the kit. Wind is now increasing from zero and he hope it comes up. I keep you updated. Regards Marco, DD7PC ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Von: Scholz, Marco [ICG-IT]=20 An: 'dd7pc@gmx.de' =20 Gesendet: Fri Oct 22 16:44:50 2010 Betreff: FW: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment=20 =20 =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer Sent: 21 October 2010 17:26 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Paul; Renato Romero; Barzen, Guido= ; Bernd Grupe; Christian Axtmann; Bernd Strehhuber; George Vastianos Subject: VLF: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment =20 Dear VLF, This weekend i plan to do my next kite experiment. I have got the pe= rmission for a kite ascent up to 300m above GND on my QTH in JN49IS36V= H. I will be QRV either on saturday or on sunday, depending on the wx.= Attached you see the current wind forecast. For saturday the wind is= not optimal, a little weak but it will be dry. On sunday the wind is= quite strong and stable but there is probably some rain... I will hav= e to see on friday evening if i can start on saturday or sunday and wi= ll announce that here. If i will start on sunday, where the SAQ transmission takes place,= this will be no problem since one can listen to SAQ and receive my tr= ansmission on an other computer based RX (e.g. SpecLab), so both can= be done to the same time :-). The starting time should be as early as possible. I have the permiss= ion at 6...16 UTC! The program is to... - rise the 200m vertical and transmit a long carrier (30 min) on 897= 0 Hz, after that a message in DFCW-600 and after that a message in DFC= W-120, then a short CW test. - transmit on 6470 Hz in DFCW-600 hoping to be copied at further sta= tions (maybe M0BMU, SQ5BPF, OE3GHB, PA3FWM...?) - if the wind will be optimal i will add another 100m and will try= to transmit at 5170 Hz, 58 km band. This might be once again the lowe= st frequency an amateur has ever transmitted and reached the far field= and above 1 Lambda, so each reception will be a WR for amateurs ;-)= BTW, my grabber in Heidelberg is in < 1 Lambda ;-) The mode will be= DFCW-600 as well. - Then, coming back to 8970 Hz (maybe in the late afternoon) and tra= nsmit a looong carrier for long time integrations, maybe for a new ODX= . - reach 1,4 A at 8970 Hz, 1 A at 6470 and 5170 Hz - be detected at 3 new stations and a new ODX ;-) - use a GPS disciplined transmitter (trying SpecLab as the VFO and= DFCW generator the first time) - measure the R, 'C' of this 300m vertical on 137 kHz, preparing a= new test there ;-) Since it is 55 % of a full size lambda/4 GP, 5 pF/= m is not valid i assume - be fascinated by the view of such an antenna which easily finds pl= ace in my car after the test ;-) Until now i don't know who of the german LF group members would be= possibly on the phone to make QSP to the reflector, just like Markus= did it in the past. If there is a german member who likes to do that= job, please send me a personal mail to exchange the phone numbers (Fe= stnetz oder O2). Otherwise i have to play my game there alone and will= see what happend in the evening ;-) BTW, the generator is running again. It started to run again just as= i have packed all my stuff in the car after the last experiment :-/= Never mind... Have i forgotten something?=20 Please tell me if you think it is no good idea to transmit during th= e SAQ transmission or what is your favorite day, if both is possible= here. I would prefer sunday, if the rain forecast changes to sunny :-= )=20 73 and looking forward to the weekend :-) Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB729C.B90AD2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Coming=20 in more than 20 dB above the noise,
 
73
 
Victor
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Scholz, Mar= co=20
Verzonden: zaterdag 23 oktober 2010 10:09
Aan:= =20 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'
Onderwerp: AW: LF: WG: FW:= DK7FC's=20 8th VLF kite experiment

DK7FC is transmitting= with a good=20 signal on 8.97KHz!!
You can see his signal on my grabber=20 http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc/vlfgrabber_dd7pc.html

73
Marco,= =20 DD7PC

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=20 <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
An:=20 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>= =20
Gesendet: Sat Oct 23 08:12:45 2010
Betreff: LF:= WG: FW:=20 DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment

Hello LF Group,
Sho= rt update from=20 Stefan, DK7FC - he is ready and try now to bring up the kit. Wind is= now=20 increasing from zero and he hope it comes up.

I keep you=20 updated.

Regards
Marco, DD7PC

Von: Scholz, Marco [ICG-IT]
= An:=20 'dd7pc@gmx.de' <dd7pc@gmx.de>
Gesendet: Fri Oct 22= 16:44:50=20 2010
Betreff: FW: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite experiment=20

 

 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org]=20 On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: 21 October= 2010=20 17:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Paul; Renato Romer= o; Barzen,=20 Guido; Bernd Grupe; Christian Axtmann; Bernd Strehhuber; George=20 Vastianos
Subject: VLF: DK7FC's 8th VLF kite=20 experiment

 

Dear VLF,

= This weekend i=20 plan to do my next kite experiment. I have got the permission for a= kite=20 ascent up to 300m above GND on my QTH in JN49IS36VH.

I will= be QRV=20 either on saturday or on sunday, depending on the wx. Attache= d you see=20 the current wind forecast. For saturday the wind is not optimal, a= little weak=20 but it will be dry. On sunday the wind is quite strong and stable bu= t there is=20 probably some rain... I will have to see on friday evening if i can= start on=20 saturday or sunday and will announce that here.

If i will sta= rt on=20 sunday, where the SAQ transmission takes place, this will be no prob= lem since=20 one can listen to SAQ and receive my transmission on an other comput= er based=20 RX (e.g. SpecLab), so both can be done to the same time :-).

= The=20 starting time should be as early as possible. I have the permission= at 6...16=20 UTC!

The program is to...

- rise the 200m vertical and= transmit=20 a long carrier (30 min) on 8970 Hz, after that a message in DFCW-600= and after=20 that a message in DFCW-120, then a short CW test.
- transmit on= 6470 Hz in=20 DFCW-600 hoping to be copied at further stations (maybe M0BMU, SQ5BP= F, OE3GHB,=20 PA3FWM...?)
- if the wind will be optimal i will add another 100m= and will=20 try to transmit at 5170 Hz, 58 km band. This might be once again the= lowest=20 frequency an amateur has ever transmitted and reached the far field= and above=20 1 Lambda, so each reception will be a WR for amateurs ;-) BTW, my gr= abber in=20 Heidelberg is in < 1 Lambda ;-) The mode will be DFCW-600 as well= .
-=20 Then, coming back to 8970 Hz (maybe in the late afternoon) and trans= mit a=20 looong carrier for long time integrations, maybe for a new ODX.
-= reach 1,4=20 A at 8970 Hz, 1 A at 6470 and 5170 Hz
- be detected at 3 new stat= ions and a=20 new ODX ;-)
- use a GPS disciplined transmitter (trying SpecLab= as the VFO=20 and DFCW generator the first time)
- measure the R, 'C' of this= 300m=20 vertical on 137 kHz, preparing a new test there ;-) Since it is 55= % of a full=20 size lambda/4 GP, 5 pF/m is not valid i assume
- be fascinated by= the view=20 of such an antenna which easily finds place in my car after the test= =20 ;-)

Until now i don't know who of the german LF group members= would be=20 possibly on the phone to make QSP to the reflector, just like Markus= did it in=20 the past. If there is a german member who likes to do that job, plea= se send me=20 a personal mail to exchange the phone numbers (Festnetz oder O2). Ot= herwise i=20 have to play my game there alone and will see what happend in the ev= ening=20 ;-)

BTW, the generator is running again. It started to run ag= ain just=20 as i have packed all my stuff in the car after the last experiment= :-/ Never=20 mind...

Have i forgotten something?

Please tell me if= you think=20 it is no good idea to transmit during the SAQ transmission or what= is your=20 favorite day, if both is possible here. I would prefer sunday, if th= e rain=20 forecast changes to sunny :-)

73 and looking forward to the= weekend=20 :-)

Stefan/DK7FC


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