Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.137]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDC022-86264de7a0462f5; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:37:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C1081380000A0; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QS919-0006FI-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:36:59 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QS919-0006F9-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:36:59 +0100 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QS917-0004HN-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:36:59 +0100 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C23661A5 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s529d275f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [82.157.39.95]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:36:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20110602142938.DFF772801B9@for01.foreach.it> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: Schumann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60894de7a0424f37 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Marco, thanks for your very plausible explination.I don't have a very quit location(city of Utrecht),so very pleased to receive anything at all. As doctor Spock would say: "facinating" 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Marco IK1ODO -2 Verzonden: donderdag 2 juni 2011 16:23 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Schumann The first Schumann resonance is not at (300000/40000)=7.5 Hz, but higher, usually around 7.7-7.8 Hz. I was astounded when I observed it for the first time about 12 years ago and found that the frequency was "not right" !:-) The reason is simple: our Earth is quite transparent at very low frequencies, so the average circumference of the ionosphere-Earth waveguide is shorter than 40000 km. In other words, the center of the first Schumann resonance is below your feet, at a deptht of approximately 300 km. The second one is a little bit higher than 15 Hz, and progressively the other come closer to harmonics of a 40000 km wavelenght; but since the Q is low, it is dfficult to extimate the exact frequency. Have a look at http://www.vlf.it/Schumann/schumann.htm. Years ago there was a website from Stanford University reporting the measured frequency of Schumann resonances vs. time. The frequency changes because of day/night ionospheric height variations, and beacuse of SIDs and other disturbances. Fascinating ! To receive them you need a very large coil, or a simple E field receiver and a quiet location; feed the signal to an audio interface, and run a spectrogram in average mode. Quite easy to say, but it takes some ingenuity and work to extract an useable signal. Renato IK1QFK has a live spectrogram covering from 0.1 Hz up, see http://www.vlf.it/cumiana/livedata.html - today we have thunderstorms in the area, and the signal is completely wiped out. Vy 73 - Marco IK1ODO