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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Ok Bob Looking at the data set , AC4IU levels where very close over the 2 nights in the -40 +/- range ... Im not sure everyone was on side that night ! Early days hihi [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b9ec4108caf852a74ce4abf709fafb22 Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0090_01CF3AED.9AD208F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01CF3AED.9AD208F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Bob=20 Looking at the data set , AC4IU levels where very close over = the 2 nights in the -40 +/- range ...=20 Im not sure everyone was on side that night ! Early days hihi 73-G,=20 From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:30 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: 27.925 is correct dial Graham; Temps here went from 8F to 40 yesterday and last night. No doubt had = something to do with poor condx. Soil conductivity in this region of NY = state is sensitive to temp. Soil conductivity drops drastically with = warmer above freezing temps-Bob =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 15:41:17 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial S/N levels , 7/8 =20 -43 OPERA 07/03/2014 00:18 WH1XBA K3SIW-1 EN52TA RX Op2H=20 -42 OPERA 07/03/2014 00:18 WH1XBA K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op2H=20 -48 OPERA 07/03/2014 00:18 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 02:29 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -39 OPERA 07/03/2014 02:29 WH1XBA K3SIW-1 EN52TA RX Op2H=20 -41 OPERA 07/03/2014 02:29 WH1XBA K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op2H=20 -41 OPERA 07/03/2014 04:40 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -44 OPERA 07/03/2014 06:51 WH1XBA W4DEX EM95TG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 06:51 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 09:03 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -41 OPERA 08/03/2014 03:49 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -43 OPERA 08/03/2014 06:00 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 S/N from first run ........very similar for the same times ? -41 OPERA 08/03/2014 03:49 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -43 OPERA 08/03/2014 06:00 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 11:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial Bob,all=20 Results from the psk-map=20 73,G,=20 Only decode one showing ? but there is a data set , unless the = Tx power increased by 8 dB and fell back , that looks like the = path is variable ?=20 What was the Fade % ?=20 If the software / audio drive is not being used , may be keep = with carrier frequency and let the Rx stations make the =20 calculations ! noting . narrow filtering will 'degrade' the min = recoverable s/n =20 WH1XBA AC4IU unknown OPERA 306 miles 06:00:40=20 Fade over the 300 mile path ? the s/n levels are the average over = the=20 2 Hour tx period=20 -48 OPERA 07/03/2014 00:18 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 02:29 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -41 OPERA 07/03/2014 04:40 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 06:51 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -40 OPERA 07/03/2014 09:03 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -41 OPERA 08/03/2014 03:49 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 -43 OPERA 08/03/2014 06:00 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H=20 WH1XBA WH1XBA unknown OPERA 0 miles 07:24:08=20 G0KTN G0KTN unknown OPERA 0 km 08:42:16=20 WH2XBA WH2XBA unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:26:23=20 KA9CFD KA9CFD unknown OPERA 0 miles 03:16:44=20 AC4IU AC4IU unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:25:46=20 VE7BDQ VE7BDQ unknown OPERA 0 km 09:54:42=20 W4DEX W4DEX unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:12:23=20 WH1XBA AC4IU unknown OPERA 306 miles 06:00:40=20 KU4XR KU4XR unknown OPERA 0 miles 08:16:14=20 From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 3:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Bob Raide ; Jay R=20 Subject: LF: 27.925 is correct dial 27.975 is not correct=20 Use 27.925 for dial-Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01CF3AED.9AD208F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Bob
 
Looking  at the  data  set  = , =20 AC4IU  levels  where  = very  close=20 over the   2  nights in the  -40 +/-  = range  ...=20
Im not  sure  everyone  was  = on side=20 that  night !
 
Early days  hihi
 
73-G,

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:30 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: 27.925 is correct dial

Graham;
Temps here went from 8F to 40 yesterday = and last=20 night.  No doubt had something to do with poor condx.  Soil=20 conductivity in this region of NY state is sensitive to temp.  Soil = conductivity drops drastically with warmer above freezing=20 temps-Bob
 
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Date:=20 Sat, 8 Mar 2014 15:41:17 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct=20 dial

 
S/N levels  ,  7/8 
 
 
 
-43 OPERA 07/03/2014=20 00:18 WH1XBA K3SIW-1 EN52TA RX Op2H-42 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 00:18 WH1XBA K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op2H-48 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 00:18 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 02:29 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-39 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 02:29 WH1XBA K3SIW-1 EN52TA RX Op2H-41 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 02:29 WH1XBA K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op2H-41 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 04:40 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-44 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 06:51 WH1XBA W4DEX EM95TG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 06:51 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 09:03 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-41 OPERA 08/03/2014 = 03:49 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-43 OPERA 08/03/2014 = 06:00 WH1XBA AC4IU FM18FG RX = Op2H
 
 
 
 
 
S/N from   first  run = ........very=20 similar  for the  same times ?
 
-41 OPERA 08/03/2014=20 03:49 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-43 OPERA 08/03/2014 = 06:00 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX = Op2H
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 11:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial

Bob,all
 
Results from the  psk-map
 
73,G,
 
Only decode   one showing ?  but  = there  is a data  set , unless  the  Tx  power=20 increased by   8 dB and  fell  back  , that = looks=20 like  the  path  is  variable  ?
 
What  was the  Fade % ?
 
If  the   software / audio =20 drive  is not  being  used  , may be keep with = carrier=20 frequency and let the  Rx stations make the 
calculations ! noting . narrow filtering  = will =20 'degrade' the  min recoverable   s/n =20
 
 
WH1XBA AC4IU unknown OPERA 306 miles 06:00:40
 
 
Fade over the  300 mile path ? the  s/n  = levels  are=20 the  average  over the
2 Hour  tx period
 
 
-48 OPERA 07/03/2014=20 00:18 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 02:29 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-41 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 04:40 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 06:51 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-40 OPERA 07/03/2014 = 09:03 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-41 OPERA 08/03/2014 = 03:49 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H-43 OPERA 08/03/2014 = 06:00 WH1XBA FN12LQ AC4IU FM18FG RX Op2H
 
 
 
 
WH1XBA WH1XBA unknown OPERA 0 miles 07:24:08 G0KTN G0KTN unknown OPERA 0 km 08:42:16 WH2XBA WH2XBA unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:26:23 KA9CFD KA9CFD unknown OPERA 0 miles 03:16:44 AC4IU AC4IU unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:25:46 VE7BDQ VE7BDQ unknown OPERA 0 km 09:54:42 W4DEX W4DEX unknown OPERA 0 miles 11:12:23 WH1XBA AC4IU unknown OPERA 306 miles 06:00:40 KU4XR KU4XR unknown OPERA 0 miles 08:16:14
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 3:56 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ; Bob Raide=20 ; Jay R=20
Subject: LF: 27.925 is correct dial

27.975 is not correct
Use 27.925 for=20 dial-Bob
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