Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.19]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-869f4b40b9da27; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:38:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 189AF380000D3; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRSVp-0001rs-1G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:37:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRSVo-0001rj-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:37:00 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRSVl-0004Gt-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:37:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0ACFD1C0009D for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:36:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F22311C0009A for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:36:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.44.26]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4CBF01C0009D for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:36:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100103153647314.4CBF01C0009D@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:36:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA8C8A.8EF33740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60134b40b9da0bbd X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA8C8A.8EF33740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger=20 ''' More people should use WSPR - ''' =20 That's not as easy as it sounds , wspr needs a liner audio to = rf carrier frequency conversion, ...fine if you have a convention= al transverter , mf exciter or ham set that works down to 500/137 ...= No good if you have dividing logic in the amplifier drive train ,= vfo controlled or PIC based without the 'ability' to run a wspr= generating code set .. Its a good point worth making though ... G..=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Mal,=20 Some suggestions: 1.. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100 at= a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just= a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation an= d station performance/changes to be determined. This would leave plen= ty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversat= ional modes.=20 2.. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK= ), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a goo= d idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance= DX if interference to weak signals is likely.=20 3.. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant= and moan less".=20 73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector Roger G3XBM 2010/1/2 mal hamilton I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs wid= e and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us try= ing to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot understan= d why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allocati= on.=20 The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. Does anyone else have an opinion? G3KEV --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA8C8A.8EF33740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger
 
'''  More people should use WSPR -=20 '''     
 
That's=20 not as  easy as  it  sounds , wspr  needs  a&= nbsp;=20 liner audio to  rf carrier frequency=20  conversion,  ...fine  if you have a  convent= ional=20 transverter , mf exciter or ham set that works down to  500/137= ...No=20 good  if you  have dividing logic in the amplifier &nbs= p;drive=20 train , vfo  controlled  or PIC based without the =20 'ability'  to  run a wspr  generating  code set ..= =20 Its a  good = ; point worth=20 making though ...
 
G..

Mal,

Some suggestions:
  1. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than= 100 at a=20 time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just= a 200Hz=20 slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation and stati= on=20 performance/changes to be determined.  This would leave plenty= of room=20 elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational mod= es.=20
  2. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK= ), is of=20 interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a goo= d idea to=20 use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX if= =20 interference to weak signals is likely.=20
  3. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant= and moan=20 less".
73s and a happy New Year to all on this=20 reflector

Roger G3XBM




2010/1/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=
I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on= 508 kcs=20 spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is caus= ing QRM to=20 those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations.= I cannot=20 understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow ba= nd=20 allocation.
The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swam= ped by=20 beacons.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
G3KEV
 



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