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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:19:23 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ
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Christian
This shows how poor your RX es antenna are. Stefan has remarked a number of 
times how strong my signal is and I have QSL CARDS
and screeen shots from the USA es Canada to prove what I have said.
for instance I had a QSO on CW with RN6BN on 4/5/2003 at 1138z on 137 Khz. I 
have the QSL card in front of me just now.
Others still active in the USA will also be able to confirm this 
information. Contact them for further information
You have some catching up to do on LF es MF before you achieve what has gone 
before in the early years.
I used to work daily during daytime into Italy and Finland using normal CW 
and getting 589 at times.EG
IK5ZPV, I5MXX es OH1TN
For confirmation contact the above operators also VE1ZL, VE1ZZ, W1TAG, 
W4DEX, AA1A, NC1K but to mention a few
DE MAL/G3KEV


From: "C. Groeger" <aot.aot@gmx.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ


> Mal,
> We tried cw on lf last year, do you remember?
> Your sigs were not audible here and only visible on twente but not audible 
> there.
> I wonder how did you manage all this dx which such a poor signal?
> 73, df5qg
>
> Christian Groeger
>
> mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> schrieb:
>
>>Stefan es co
>>Ever since the introduction of data modes 137 has gradually gone down 
>>hill. In the days of CW and QRSS QSO mode there were over 30 countries 
>>active, also BEACON mode does not help.
>>The band was at its best when QSO mode was the preferred choice, DATA 
>>MODES and NON STOP BEACONS chased all of the CW operators away to other 
>>bands like 160 metres.
>>I have a shack full of LF equipment  and Antennas to match but never hear 
>>any CW acty so have gone else where like 630 and 160 metres plus all the 
>>other HF bands
>>
>>73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: schaefer
>>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:12 PM
>>  Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ
>>
>>
>>  Hello Chris,
>>
>>  Unfortunately i do not have much time this evening. However i will be in 
>> the shack again sunday evening, if you like to try then. I can set up a 
>> CW beacon on LF if you like but that does not help much in terms of QSO 
>> activity.
>>
>>  Who is ready and interested and audible in CW on LF these days?
>>
>>  What would you think is the reason for the non-activity?
>>
>>  One reason must be the higher noisefloor, several dB higher than 2001 i 
>> assume, at least in urban locations. But that can't be the only reason. 
>> Is it the 1000 different modes or the new 630m band? Is it the 
>> availability of the internet? Or did "we" just became tired? Or 
>> combinations of that? :-)
>>
>>  73, Stefan/DK7FC
>>
>>  Am 15.02.2014 14:25, schrieb Chris Osborn:
>>    LF,
>>
>>
>>    I am at present puttng out test signals on 137.7 kHz should anyone 
>> wish to check their RX.
>>
>>
>>    I shall be QRV on 137.7 kHz this evening from about 18.00Z again 
>> putting out test signals and also some CQ calls using QRSS / DFCW
>>    I  can try CW if conditions seem favourable.
>>
>>
>>
>>    It would be a shame if after Dave's excellent LF / MF artical in 
>> RadCom would-be ops took a listen on those bands and heard no amateur 
>> activity.
>>
>>
>>    A quick look in my LF receive logbook for 2001 for this weekend 
>> (actually 17/18 Feb) recorded the following stations - all on 136.5 kHz 
>> CW:
>>
>>
>>    DJ9IE  (3 times)
>>
>>    F6CNI
>>    G3BDQ
>>    GW4ALG (2 times)
>>
>>    EI0CF (2 times)
>>
>>    GW4HXO
>>    G3XDV (2 times)
>>
>>    G8RW
>>    G6NB
>>    GM3YXM/P
>>    SM6PXJ
>>    G6RO
>>    ON7ZO
>>    PA0BWL
>>
>>
>>    Happy days!
>>
>>
>>    73
>>    Chris G3XIZ