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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Would be nice if it where that simple ! PA0A at the moment is decoding over land to Moscow ..50% over each may be , but not showing at Iceland , 100% water path in the past Moscow signals have decoded in the Uk with 3 hours of daylight left before dark ! rn3agc with 150 watts (ish) and long wire [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: cbf9d9751ac5f32708197d03fa6d8d74 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC Over night OP32 ? East coast monitors USA ? 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PA0A at the moment is decoding over land to Moscow ..50% over = each may be , but not showing at Iceland , 100% water path =20 in the past Moscow signals have decoded in the Uk with 3 hours = of daylight left before dark ! rn3agc with 150 watts (ish) and = long wire=20 G .. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC Over night OP32 ? East coast monitors USA ? Hi G.., LF,=20 Yes, good point. The path to UA0SNV for example is now in darkness most = of the time. However the results are not better than in late august. The = same applies for the path to YV7MAE and other DX paths. Another example = is the S/N of my night transmissions at W1VD. I remember there were = excellent results in april or even may, not much worse than in december, = see https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n0vezbcsrhoyvfz/JWLmm0uJZZ?m I also = remember LF WSPR (normal, not slow) decodes at W1VD in september but not = in november... Looks like the larger the area in darkness is, the higher the = circumference and so the probability to propagate QRN from a nearby zone = in daylight. Maybe there is such an effect that partly compensates the = better propagation.=20 All in all it was a noisy night and this evening is noisy as well, at = least here i can see some QRN. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 02.12.2012 15:15, schrieb Graham:=20 136 Odd band Stefan ? There where more TA and 4X4 decodes in the summer , using OP8 = ! I don't see any on the psk map for last night , W1VD showing , = but nothing listed , unless something has been missed ? nothing = round the Pacific either .. But a good number of stations running , 3000 + Kms to UK = from Alex R7NT using 60 watts to a 'big loop at 6 dB over = the s/n limit , may of decoded with 15 watts ? .. good advert = for lots of wire ( Not seen Mal post for a while ?) 73 -G.. 136K 24 Hrs ------=_NextPart_000_01E8_01CDD0D6.976B68F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would  be nice if it  where  that  simple  = !
 
PA0A  at the  moment  is  decoding  = over =20 land  to  Moscow ..50%  over each may be  , = but =20 not  showing  at  Iceland , 100%  water  = path =20
in the  past  Moscow  signals  have  = decoded =20 in the  Uk with  3  hours  of  daylight =20 left  before  dark  !   rn3agc  with  = 150=20 watts  (ish) and long  wire
 
G ..
 

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC Over night OP32 ? East coast monitors = USA=20 ?

Hi G.., LF,

Yes, good point. The path to UA0SNV = for=20 example is now in darkness most of the time. However the results are not = better=20 than in late august. The same applies for the path to YV7MAE and other = DX paths.=20 Another example is the S/N of my night transmissions at W1VD. I remember = there=20 were excellent results in april or even may, not much worse than in = december,=20 see https://= www.dropbox.com/sh/n0vezbcsrhoyvfz/JWLmm0uJZZ?m=20 I also remember LF WSPR (normal, not slow) decodes at W1VD in september = but not=20 in november...

Looks like the larger the area in darkness is, the = higher=20 the circumference and so the probability to propagate QRN from a nearby = zone in=20 daylight. Maybe there is such an effect that partly compensates the = better=20 propagation.
All in all it was a noisy night and this evening is = noisy as=20 well, at least here i can see some QRN.

73, = Stefan/DK7FC


Am=20 02.12.2012 15:15, schrieb Graham:=20
136 Odd  band  Stefan ?
 
There where  more  TA and  4X4   decodes = in=20 the  summer , using  OP8  !
 
I don't see  any  on the psk map  for  = last =20 night  , W1VD  showing  , but nothing listed  ,=20 unless   something  has been  missed  = ?  =20 nothing   round the  Pacific  either ..
 
But  a  good  number of  stations  = running ,=20 3000 + Kms  to  UK    from  Alex =20 R7NT   using  60  watts  to a  = 'big =20 loop    at   6  dB over the  s/n limit , = may of=20 decoded  with   15  watts  ? .. good =20 advert  for  lots of  wire  ( Not  seen Mal = post for=20 a  while ?)
 
73 -G..
 
 
136K  24 Hrs

 

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