Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7060338000098; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RztYA-0004LC-Go for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:30:50 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RztY9-0004L1-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:30:49 +0000 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RztY7-0003c8-G6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:30:49 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.29.145]) by mwinf5d05 with ME id chWh1i00237rJlN03hWhsD; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: , In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:30:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120221-0, 21/02/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015F_01CCF0BE.885F4820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466451104:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094f43d4f40347 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01CCF0BE.885F4820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>build a new BEAM ANTENNA on my garden<< Now that's what I call a back GARDEN !!!=20 G.... : ) =20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:22 PM To: _RSGB_LF=20 Subject: LF: Band 472_479 Hello Petr and all OMs!=20 That is fine! Be lucky, you are 212km away :-) I was briefly receiving on the new band as well. I listened to signals = from NDB "RP", "PT", "VIB", "BIA" : =20 477kHz 1018/1030 RP Malacky/Kuchyna SVK JN88NL 475kHz 1014/1018 PT Petrovskoye RUS LO01CR 480kHz 1020/1025 VIB Viterbo ITA JN62AK 474kHz 1031/1034 BIA Rzeszow/Jasionka POL KO10BC Well, despite my problem with huge "RP" signal I am sure, that the band = will be usable for me. I am going to build a new beam antenna on my = garden. Its minimum receiving must be direct to "RP", of course :-) =20 73! Lubos, OK2BVG -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: p.maly@gmc.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:32:56 +0100 Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479 Hello all, I am not so pesimistic, more exactly, I am a bit more lucky. I am abt = 212 km away from RP.=20 I made a first reception test this Sunday. RP is the strongest signal on = the band but it doesn=92t bother much. Besides it I heard two more = beacons. The band is more spacy and much calmer than 136kHz. Looking = forward to the day it is crowded by HAM sigs. Listen to recordings at: http://ok1fig.nagano.cz/Band630m.htm 73, Petr, OK1FIG From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 17:26 To: _RSGB_LF=20 Subject: LF: Band 472_479 Hello OMs!=20 I read all your comments about new HAM band, they were written in the = last days. To tell the truth, to use this band will be a problem for me = and all HAMS in our region. There is a Slovak NDB beacon "RP" located = right between 472 and 479kHz. CALL : RP FREQ: 477kHz Modulation: +/- 1060Hz side bands QTH: Malacky/Kuchyna=20 QRA: JN88NL =20 My QTH is only 37km far from the "RP". The beacon=B4s signal is = constantly at least +50dB up to noise (in fact +60dB in the modulation = gaps). The carrier is not problem, but the worst thing is the wide = strong noise during the transmission. It is about +25dB - see the = picture. I made sure myself, that it was not a problem of my RX. The = situation is the same, when an attenuator between antenna and RX is = used.=20 I hope that "RP" will not be a problem for you as well! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01CCF0BE.885F4820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >>build a new =20 BEAM  ANTENNA  on my garden<<
 
Now  that's  what  I = call =20 a  back   GARDEN !!!
 
G....  : ) 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: LF: Band 472_479

Hello Petr and all OMs!=20
That is fine! Be lucky, you are 212km away :-)
I was briefly = receiving=20 on the new band as well. I listened to signals from NDB  "RP", = "PT", "VIB",=20  "BIA" :  

477kHz    1018/1030    RP   =  Malacky/Kuchyna=20       SVK   JN88NL
475kHz    1014/1018 =  =20  PT    Petrovskoye           =  =20  RUS   LO01CR
480kHz    1020/1025 =  =20  VIB   Viterbo             =    =20     ITA    JN62AK
474kHz    1031/1034 =  =20  BIA   Rzeszow/Jasionka     POL  =20  KO10BC

Well, despite my problem with huge  "RP" signal I am sure, = that the=20 band will be  usable for me. I am going to build a new beam antenna = on my=20 garden. Its minimum receiving must be direct to "RP", of course :-)=20   

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG


 
From: p.maly@gmc.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, = 21 Feb=20 2012 14:32:56 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479

Hello all,
 
I am not so pesimistic, more exactly, I am a bit more lucky. I am = abt 212=20 km away from RP.
I made a first reception test this Sunday. RP is the strongest = signal on=20 the band but it doesn=92t bother much. Besides it I heard two more = beacons. The=20 band is more spacy and much calmer than 136kHz. Looking forward to the = day it is=20 crowded by HAM sigs.
 
Listen to recordings at:
 
73, Petr, OK1FIG
 
 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 17:26
Subject: LF: Band 472_479
 
Hello OMs!=20
I read all your comments about new HAM band, they were written in = the last=20 days. To tell the truth, to use this band  will be a problem for me = and all=20 HAMS in our region. There is a Slovak NDB beacon "RP" located right = between 472=20 and 479kHz.
 
CALL : RP
FREQ: 477kHz
Modulation:    +/- 1060Hz side bands
QTH: Malacky/Kuchyna
QRA: JN88NL  
 
My QTH is only 37km far from the "RP". The beacon=B4s signal is=20 constantly  at least +50dB up to noise (in fact +60dB in the = modulation=20 gaps). The carrier is not problem, but the worst thing is the wide = strong noise=20 during the transmission. It is about +25dB - see the picture. I made = sure=20 myself, that it was not a problem of my RX. The situation is the same, = when an=20 attenuator between antenna and RX is used.
 
I hope that "RP" will not be a problem for you as well!
 
73
 
Lubos, = OK2BVG
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